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05:23AM | 12/16/04
Member Since: 12/15/04
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My wife and I are currently building a house, and came across the decision of having a fiberglass pan or tile floor for the shower. We decided on the matching tile floor, but have heard from a couple of people that it is not "if" the tile shower floor will leak, but "when." Does anyone out there have any horror stories of tile shower floors, or have heard that this is true?



06:25AM | 12/16/04
Member Since: 12/15/04
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What you are saying is exactly what i have heard, unless there is a definite large crack, the leak is hard to find. Another good point that you mentioned and I didn't think about, it is not a huge factor when re-selling.

Thanks for the info!!!


11:21AM | 12/16/04
Member Since: 12/15/04
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Well, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you another question. On the subject of the "squeaking" sounds, my current master shower does that so I know exactly what you mean. But it has never leaked. You talked about sand or a cement mix, have you heard about this techniques helping? Sand sounds like it would. We are also having the shower made where you step-down into it, meaning the pan will be flush with the bathroom floor. Will this be an impossible task, or too costly to do? I need to save all the money I can for the wife to decorate (and win brownie points b/c you are right, she will love it!).



02:20PM | 12/16/04
Member Since: 11/27/04
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sorry don't know the name of it (try your plumbing supply house)but there is a product out there that is like a pink fibreglass fabric. it is put onto a styrofoam base (4 inches thick and tapered)and up the walls. it is mastiked into place and a small mortar bed for strength,then the tile over top of it. the center of the pan has a gasket drain that sandwhiches this membrane inbetween so no leaks ever. check the instalation instructions with the kit.

another method is the built up mortar bed that a rubber membrane goes under and then the same gasket drain. and then the tile. no leaks.the rubber pan goes up the wall a little higher than the mortar bed.

tile will always leak through grout as grout is not water proof.


09:33PM | 12/16/04
Member Since: 06/23/04
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Flexing floors has always been a problem with the cheaper one-piece showers. It often doesn't cause a problem but can be really annoying. I once showered in one that flexed so suddenly and dramatically that I nearly slipped.

If you are replacing the shower, there are three options to solve this problem. First is to buy a higher-end (and guess what - more expensive) shower liner. The floors in these are so thick and well supported that they will never oilcan on you. You may not be able to find these at a home builders store. Try or

These same manufacturers also make solution number two which is a soild prefabricated shower receptor. This is trade lingo for a solid shower floor. For the walls you can add ceramic tile or a prefabricated plastic liner. The receptors are made of plastic resins or terrazzo (marble or stone chips in cement that is ground smooth on the surface). They are about 1.5" to 2" thick and are very heavy. Many of them are really good looking.

Solution number three is the traditional tiled shower floor. If this is installed by a knowlegeable professional it will not leak. The system starts out with a sheet of lead or special plastic liner that is turned up the walls about 6" or 8" without any seams or joints. The corners are folded like a chinese dinner takeout box and the drain has a clamp ring that seals to the liner. The shower floor is waterproof at this point even before the tile is installed. The cement mortar bed is placed over this pan and then the floor tile. Don't skrimp on the pan liner. As you already know, this is an item that is too hard to replace if it fails. I replaced a 50 year old pan in my house when the shower was moved to another location. From the appearance of the wood boards below it had never leaked. The tile itself was also in good shape. The biggest problem was the tile joints as they had begun to erode and discolor - but what do you expect after 50 years. Hope this gives you some options.



07:36AM | 12/20/04
Member Since: 12/15/04
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Wow, thanks everyone for your help, advice, and suggestions. This helps a lot, and will hopefully end up being a solution to my shower floor selection problems.

Thanks again!



11:55PM | 05/09/14
Try spraying insulation foam from a rattle can it really works good if you have access my Shower had a squeak and It fix it well

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