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jhebert

10:42AM | 05/08/07
Member Since: 05/06/07
2 lifetime posts
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Comment: Essentially, I need to make the basement a livable space. I though it was, until the recent rains in the midwest! Ruined my bedroom and computer office this time (this time, it was not a trickle, it was flowing well).

We have a circa-1950 home with a leaky basement. Our budget is too tight for

the obvious solution (moving!). We've tried better drainage, steeper

grading, dehumidifier, patching crakcs, french drain, but none of that helped this time around. In fact, we were surprised to find water coming in from behind all 4 finished walls. I haven't had time to find the source, been dealing with cleanup.

I believe our best choice may be to cut

channels into the concrete floor that lead water to the drain, and then

build a subfloor on a barrier that will allow the water to flow while

keeping the floor materials "floating" above the concrete surface.

There are several products that purport to do this... Delta-FL, DriCore, and OVRX Barricade. Can you give me any tips or recommendations for the most appropriate use of these different products? I can't quite seem to figure out which may be best for my needs, and I'm curious which of these productsis likely to be the best cure for wet basements like mine. In my situation, hot and cold is not an issue, yet several of these products claim to do a better job of insulation as well. Will my nice cool basement now become hotter (not desirable during Kansas summers)?

And, is there a better way? I'll entertain anything that will give me greater certainty that the water will be mostly taken care of.

Delta-FL is here

http://www.cosella-dorken.com/bvf/ca-en/products/floor/products/FL.php?navid

=18

Barricade is here

http://www.ovrx.com/basement-flooring.html

Dricore is here

http://www.dricore.com/en/eIndex.aspx

Thanks for any help.

Frustrated in Topeka,

James

KingVolcano

04:28AM | 05/11/07
Member Since: 03/03/05
273 lifetime posts
I do not like any of the systems that provide channels for water flow/movement. Since ground water can contain bacteria and fungi and organic material (everything you need to grow mold), you could have the worlds largest petri dish under your feet.

I know the manufacturers claim that mold cannot grow "on" their products, this is just a play on words. No, fungi will not consider their products a food source, but mold can grow on it.

A few weeks ago, I removed 1800 sqft of the Dorken product in a home north of Boston. My client's oldest son was showing signs of asthma.

Those systems are good for certain situations, but if you are getting a lot of water, it may not be for you.

jhebert

11:12AM | 05/11/07
Member Since: 05/06/07
2 lifetime posts
What kind of condition was the Dorken product in? I'm curious what the underside looked like, and if you found much evidence of gunk underneath...

My wife had a local plumber come in and quote cutting a channel around the interior perimeter of the basement, going down 6 inches, and installing a drain tile feeding into a sump pump... he guesstimated $10-12,000, offhand.

At this point, that's about 15% of my home value.

Considering moving again...

KingVolcano

11:29AM | 05/12/07
Member Since: 03/03/05
273 lifetime posts
The product was in good shape, there was some spotted growth and it was damp in most areas even after 6 weeks since the incident. If we didn't remove it, I'm sure we would have had exploded growth once the humid weather arrives.

I'm not sure how handy you are, but you can rent a the tools needed to install a drain system in your basement. Most of the cost is in labor. Also, unless your basement is huge, that price seems high, even at Boston's standards. Get a few estimates.
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