It would seem that ‘Licensed/Waterproofer’ has some strong feelings that diverting exterior water is the ONLY thing to do in ALL basements regardless of all circumstances. That is an opinion which he is certainly are entitled to. Misinformation doesn't go unnoticed.
“lets see, according to the Better Business Bureau, these guys have an 'unsatisfactory record' due to answered complaints.”
When a customer applies Sani-Tred products on top of paint, tar or standing water against our instruction, it would be difficult for anyone to say “good job, you applied it correctly, I think it will work”. Those 3 individuals went off to the bureau to report how they FELT. Anyone in the USA can get on that bureau and say anything about anyone regardless whether or not it is true, hones or valid. The better business bureau has us listed 3 times as ‘unanswered’. We contacted the bureau, asked them “why it is listed as unanswered, we did answer, the materials were obviously improperly applied look at the photos”, they responded “it’s just a glitch in the system because we see all your responses and replies”. Oh well … what can ya do? I’d say 3 glitches are EXCELLENT for a 23 year track record. We also found out that if you pay your bureau dues, you don’t get written up. We don’t contribute to the better business bureau because they list positive results to systems that DO NOT WORK.
“Here, Sanitred, i`ll prove that you claim(s) are wrong,deceptive,etc. Have several estimates i just ran, hollow-block wall, all leak due to CRACKS on Outside of blocks. So, you send me yer products, i`ll apply them 'correctly/perfectly' and we`ll see how long it`ll keep water out.”
No problem and the basement would never see a molecule of water, but you need to calm yourself. I doubt that you truly understand how and why Sani-Tred products have a 100% success rate. I think you need to understand that YOU are the only person saying that we don’t approve of any exterior work. You of all people should know that there is a proper tool for each job. Sani-Tred products will not allow a single molecule of water, moisture, vapor or even problem radon to enter any basement in the world. That’s our job, we keep the water out. Drains relieve standing water which can reduce ‘negative hydrostatic pressure’ but can not truly WATERPROOF. Don’t you see? Drains move water, they don’t waterproof.
“It alos will Not and Cannot stop/prevent/lessen/relieve Hydrostatic `n lateral SOIL pressure that, AHEM, causes walls to Crack, leak, bow etc. Tree roots can also crack `n push against basement walls, wake up will ya please! And tell the TRUTH.”
Are you saying that lateral soil pressure can be solved with a drain or that WE SAY that a permanent flexible coating will? If the earth wants to push through a foundation, I’d say that you have bigger problems than waterproofing. Wouldn’t you say so yourself? If you have a tree root pushing through a foundation, how will even an absolutely permanent waterproof rubber coating stop it? The problem is the tree not water or Sani-Tred. What are you reading? Not our website. Why don’t you call our office and say that you have a “hollow block foundation, say that lateral soil pressure is heaving in your walls and tree roots are popping through”. Use your common sense; of course no one on this planet would just say “coat it and the roots will disappear, the earth will stop moving, and the ground will dry up”. Even in that situation, Sani-Tred products would waterproof it, but even Sani-Tred products have their limitations, 600% elongation is amazing, but not if a structure moves beyond the material’s flexibility. Those things are beyond anyone’s control; all the drains, coatings, pumps and dehumidifiers in the world can’t stop acts of god.
Where do we state that Sani-Tred products will eliminate, prevent, lessen or relieve hydrostatic pressure? www.sanitred.com
WATERPROOF - Made of or coated or treated with rubber, plastic, or a sealing agent to prevent penetration by water. Not permitting the passage of water. The proper term for material that completely keeps out water. Treatment of a surface or structure to prevent the passage of water under hydrostatic pressure. The process where a building component is made totally resistant to the passage of water and/or water vapor.
Exterior Drainage: Can be installed IF and only IF a home has enough slope to run water away. Inner city homes may not be able to do this at all. This can ONLY reduce ‘standing water’ surrounding the home. This will not dry up the earth. This can not stop moisture/vapor transmission nor eliminate problem radon. It certainly has its uses, no one in their right mind would refute this, but it can’t ‘waterproof’.
Interior Drainage: Can be installed inside of just about any home any time of the year. Encouraging water to enter a basement just to pump it back out again IS NOT WATERPROOFING. God forbid the electricity goes out while it rains, like that’s never happened before. Oh yeah, that’s what battery back up systems are for, back up pumps, replacement pumps, dehumidifiers, sheet materials behind finished walls … Nonsense, this does a whole lot of stuff, none of which is WATERPROOFING. Can anyone honestly say that this little pump is going to pump down the surrounding water table in every home every time? Can a pump stop 100% of all water, moisture, vapor and problem radon?
Exterior Coatings: Only seals the exterior of the wall down to the footer. Big deal … water, moisture, vapor and problem radon can still enter through the floor and the wall/floor junction. Exterior coatings only divert water to the ‘next least rout of resistance’.
Exterior Drains With Exterior Coatings: Great, you’ve eliminated standing water from around the home, sealed the exterior of the wall, but this still leaves the floor and wall/floor joint susceptible. Don’t blame us, we didn’t invent the laws of physics or the laws of nature. Even garage floors that are slab on grade suffer from ‘moisture vapor drive’ which is moisture wicking up through concrete against gravity. This natural force delaminates all other coatings.
Fact #1 - The truth is most of our customers have ALREADY installed gutters, downspouts, exterior and interior drainage to find that they don’t work like they assumed it would. The fact is none of the above STOP water, moisture, vapor or radon in its tracks just tries to redirect it. Think about it. It can’t waterproof.
Fact #2 - Sani-Tred products do permanently adhere and will never bubble, chip, peel, crack, delaminate or leak for the lifetime of the structure. I’m sorry to say nothing will stand up to ‘massive earth movement’ beyond the performance of the products. PermaFlex – 590% elongation and LRB – 600% elongation.
Fact #3 – If a Sani-Tred waterproofed home was lifted out of the ground and submerged 8’ deep, Sani-Tred products would not bubble, chip, peel, crack, delaminate or leak. No one is saying that it’s a good idea to have a home built in 8’ deep water. Statistics and test results are sometimes just numbers unless put into laymen’s terms. The fact is Sani-Tred products do withstand more negative hydrostatic pressure than can possibly occur in any foundation. That doesn’t mean 8’ of standing water is a good thing to have. Remember, the right tool for the right job. Our system will waterproof it 100%. Standing water will not just go away and we are not claiming that it will.
FACT #4 – The only way to positively waterproof 100% of the walls and floors is to treat 100% of the walls and floor that is below grade. This can never happen from the exterior.