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retisin

03:53PM | 02/04/04
Member Since: 05/19/03
457 lifetime posts
It is all a personal taste,we have painted green rooms with purple trim,and pink rooms with blue trim,it is your own taste.if you like it then do it.Light trim dark trim against a light or dark wall does not matter.
Their is no right or wrong in the color you choose in color matching.

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cleanedge

04:04AM | 02/05/04
Member Since: 02/03/04
15 lifetime posts
I agree there is really only one person you need to satisfy when it comes to taste--you.

The problem is when YOU paint a room in some unique, slightly off-center way with little or no understanding of the results and then (days, weeks later) YOU decide you don't like it.

In my experience the majority--I'm not saying everyone--but the clear majority of people over the age of 20 who make like gangbusters down home painting's road less traveled end up in some large measure regretting it.

A case in point. Recently I felt obliged to convince an interior painting client to go two levels lighter (on a color strip) from a deep, electric blue. I then bought a quart and rolled out a few square feet. Remember this test quart was about 50% lighter than what the client originally thought for sure was just fine. When the test area dried the client was practically aghast as they realized even THIS was way too dark for what they wanted. They ended up going another 50% lighter still!

The point is not whether I liked the color or wanted this or wanted that. My only stake was my client's satisfaction. And believe me they would not have been happy if I had painted that room on the strength of their "taste" as they had percieved it on that deep, electric blue color chip. Feedback...testing...it can mean all the difference!

Chances for success off the beaten path (and even in the sometimes overwhelming world of neutral colors) improve if you have help from a friend with solid experience working with color (for example an art teacher) or--if you can afford it--$100-150 for an interior designer color consultantation. Money well spent, especially if you can find a good referral.

Perhaps the best news is the recent advances in color visualization software available today. Bob Vila offers it! For an excellent demo, click on the tab at the top of the page "design tools" then click on "paint designer v2.0" then on the click "Launch Paint Designer v2.0" A pop-up will ask for your username and password but for the demo purposes just click on "Try first" located beneath the picture of the paint cans. From there it's easy to follow and even fun!

Finally, no matter what, it is always a VERY good idea to buy a quart of the color(s) making sure the color(s) is in the same sheen (flat/satin/semi-gloss)you plan to use. Then roll or brush out one or more fairly large test areas (3'x3' or so) and live with the color a few days, noticing how it does or doesn't grow on you and how different it looks as the light cycle happens throughout the day.

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5slb6

01:24AM | 02/07/04
Member Since: 07/28/02
1356 lifetime posts
I disagree with that painting a 3x3 area as that does not give a true idea of what the color is going to look like after it on all four walls. I have seen alot of people come into the paint store and buy 10 or 12 quarts to do a room or 2 as they can't make up there minds or they want the wild colors they saw someone else use but they don't really when it comes down to it want it themselves.
You either need to paint an entire wall or room to know what the color is really going to look like, and especially when you are going with a dark or very bright color.
The main thing is going with what you like but remember don't mix cool and warm colors together.
Also alot of paint companies have software that lets you put their colors together and maybe a good investment if you have more decorating to do.
Hope this helps out.

cleanedge

06:00AM | 02/09/04
Member Since: 02/03/04
15 lifetime posts
A 3'x3' test area may not be the perfect solution for color selection but it sure beats having to imagine what an entire room will look like from a tiny chip on color chart. Testing on more than one wall is a good idea. If you don't want to paint directly on the wall, try using one (or more) big pieces of cardboard. When dry, use blue painter's tape to fix the cardboard on the wall. This method also has the advantage of being able to move the test around the room.

Regarding the previous post, it seems impractical and rather extreme to suggest you need to paint “an entire room or entire wall” to know if you like a color or not. Some people have some pretty big walls and I doubt most people in any case have the time or the inclination to paint an entire wall--let alone the entire room–to test color. Imagine if the first and second color don’t work out and now you need to paint the entire wall a third time. Don’t even think about a fourth, fifth....

Again, the 3'x3' test is not perfect, but you can test any number of colors and sheens without spending an absurd amount of time and trouble. You’ll see how some colors look completely different than you imagined them on your walls–for better or worse. It isn’t the ideal solution but combined with color visualization software it will likely save you much time and money and give you a real and tangible measure of confidence to go forward.

I work as a painter where I get a ton of on-the-spot feedback right there in people’s homes--before, during and after color selection. And I can say without a doubt that the vast majority of homeowners find the 3'x3' color test is a very useful tool.

Any homeowners yea or nay?

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retisin

05:42AM | 02/11/04
Member Since: 05/19/03
457 lifetime posts
But to answer your question yes,it will look just fine.

retisin

05:50AM | 02/11/04
Member Since: 05/19/03
457 lifetime posts
I personally hate test areas just because,buying quarts of paint and running them to and from the jobsite just to get a color they like is a bunch of BS I have a fandeck and they pick the color out before we start.
If they dont like it we can tint it,but if they go with a complete color change then they pay for more material and the running around.
We allow 1 color change besides the primary 1st choice,we dont have time to be runing around making colored patterns on walls.
Most of clients understand this.
Reason being is we had a lady want a burgandy so we bring a qt of it,then she seen it and wanted to try a light purple,then a light blue.So now we show them color charts they pick a color and we tint it 1 time for free,running around when my guys and I could be doing another job is costing me $$.We are up front and no messing around with homeowners,is how I feel about the wall color samples.

5slb6

02:03PM | 02/12/04
Member Since: 07/28/02
1356 lifetime posts
Bravo for you RET.

billbwb

10:27AM | 02/15/04
Member Since: 02/08/04
6 lifetime posts
When did this become a topic about what painting contractors want to do and the things that are too much trouble for them?



cleanedge

10:41AM | 02/15/04
Member Since: 02/03/04
15 lifetime posts
bravo? what's to cheer about? obviously the man has a customer service chip on his shoulder. i can just see the wrinkle on his lip when his client shows some preliminary indecision on color. how about some positive advice and not being so all about you. and i'm not talking about the whatever-feels-good-do-it stuff you laid down earlier. that doesn't work for a lot of people.

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retisin

03:50PM | 02/15/04
Member Since: 05/19/03
457 lifetime posts
Oh and yeah #5 is right bravo for me. He has been around enough to see my posts, and that I dont mess around. I see 2 people hate being wrong. Yeah, I have a problem with clients that [complain] and cant make up their mind, wasting my time, time that I could be helping someone who has their [act] together and know what they want.

Why would I want to spend any extra time on such person, when i have clients lined up with money in hand? WHAT - Just to make them happy??! I, and the guy who is holding the $$ and has his mind made up, are gonna be alot happier than somebody who wants to pay me the same but do more work.
[Heck] yeah, it's about the $$! If not, I'd be doing it for free.

Mr.Clean, you go ahead and hold their hand, being a consultant for the clients, and spend all your free time trying to make them happy. When your all done and they are still unhappy about the color you advised them on, and are holding on to your final pay, it doesn't matter you slaved and sweated for them. They hate it. The job could be A-1, best project you ever did. Bottom line - They aren't happy and are holding the final pay.

But hey you are the type that puts leans on homes before you start. All our work is a hand shake and a smile just like it should be.


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cleanedge

02:51PM | 02/16/04
Member Since: 02/03/04
15 lifetime posts
First and most important, you are WAY off topic. Second your rant is sad, just sad.

Jay J

02:23AM | 02/17/04
Member Since: 10/26/00
782 lifetime posts
Easy fellas!!!

If you want to rant and rage in my house - Fine. But be civil about it. It's too easy to be a tough guy from a distance, AND with words, where one can't adequately state their position, clarify themselves, and/or defend themself. I'm sure that you wouldn't express yourself this way if you just met for the first time, in person, where no relationship ever existed.

I'm all for the 1st ammendment but there are rules when you come into my house. I'm sure you have your rules too. Please keep it down. You're our guest.

Jay J -Moderator

PS: God Bless America!



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