ok, well i managed to go the rest of the way to the sump hole today. after i uncovered the pipe i found it looked like a rollercoaster, and the very end of it was going uphill!! now who'n the hell runs pipe like this? i also found the end of the pipe [just before the 'up swing'] had a fair amount of sediment in it [1/2 plugged]. i figured at that point i'd remove the pipe alltogether and work on atleast getting the water going downhill. well, lo and behold, as soon as i pulled that section of pipe out, the water started moving to the sump hole. i also had to chip out some of the concrete around the edge of the sump hole where the pipe exited to help with the downhill flow.
the last section of pipe i just removed is much bigger in diameter then the 'up hill' pieces i already removed, and has large circular holes along it for the water to get in. i also found that on the pieces i removed prior to this have small 'slits' in the convolutions of the pipe to let the water in [previously they looked 'solid' to me].
so, here's where i'm at, i have 90% of this wall length dug up and 'de-piped', and now have a somewhat downhill path for the water to get to the sump hole. as i was looking at the mess i have created, i noticed that the majority of the sediment [more like muck] is located to the right of the cobbed in T [pretty much at the end of my initial dig in the first pic's], there is no where near as bad a silt condition from the T to the sump hole [going to the left in the pic's], sure, it's there, but not as bad. so do you think the sediment pile up was caused by the up hill flow from the T on, or could the pile up just be an additional problem i have to deal with? [i understand due to the nature of this whole water entry situation sediment is to be expected, but it's extreme at the one end].
now so far i'm into this project for @ $12, plus the joy of hacking the floor up, as mentioned before, i'll have to wait untill after the holidays to actually purchase repair materials, but in the mean time, i want to dig out the rest of the stone and muck and try to salvage some of the stone [might as well, no sense in carrying it up the stairs]. i usually don't like to start something without the items needed to finish the job, but due to nature of the problem, i kinda had to wing it to prevent more damage to the cellar.
ok, now if i continue to remove the stones along the length of the trench i now have, how do i go about figuring the pitch needed from one end to the other to insure good water flow? i'm sure it doesn't take much, but if i don't ask, i'll go overkill and have a drop you could ski on.
i'm also thinking it may work out that i have to wait to purchase materials so i can clean out the mess in the trench, and see what kind of sediment issue results from having a 'free flowing' water path.
sorry for the novel, here are the other pic's,
the end of that pipe goes into the T
just past the T on it's way to the sump hole
on to the sump
the sump hole
1/2 of the not so downhill journey
well, that's where i'm at for now. let me know what you think, and any ideas you have.
thanks again for the help so far, and i hope you're getting as big a laugh out of this as i am,