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whalerron

07:16PM | 12/29/04
Member Since: 12/29/04
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My basement has an outdoor entrance. There is a set of steps that go from that outside entrance up about 6 feet to ground level. At the base of the steps there is a landing with a drain in it and the drain no longer works.

How are these basement steps drains typically setup? What is the procedure for replacing the drain when it cannot be cleaned and it no longer drains? I have thought about building a set of Murphy doors but the staircase is entirely outdoors and it is about 15 feet long.

cellarwater

01:42PM | 12/30/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
These drains usually go to a drywell. What is the water issue? Does it come into the bulkhead when it rains, or come out of the drain during the spring thaw? let me know. C.

whalerron

06:24PM | 12/31/04
Member Since: 12/29/04
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The 15 foot long stairwell is completely exposed to the rain. When it rains, the water runs down the steps to the landing. If it is raining hard enough, the drain can't handle the flow and the water level starts building on top of the landing. When it reaches the top of the 3" row block, which is under the door, the water starts leaking under the door and into the basement.

I have thought about breaking out the landing with a maul. Then I would dig down 3 feet and back fill with washed stone. Is this the proper way to correct this drain problem?

Thanks,

Ron

theeagle

06:24PM | 12/31/04
Member Since: 11/27/04
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possibly your drain goes into the perimiter drain tile of the house and years of dirt getting into the drain has plugged it. if not then break up the concrete and dig a dry well about 3 feet deep by roughly 2 feet wide and fill with 'three quarter minus' crushed rock. a note ..if you have a high ground water level this way may not drain the best if lots of rain gets into this stairwell. there are also yard drain barrels that have no bottom(also a 5 gallon bucket upside down with a 4 inch pvc drain pipe into it and then drain cover) and can also be placed in the hole and surrounded by crushed rock and reconcrete and put on the drain cover. this will allow more expansion room for the water to go into before the ground absorbs the water.


theeagle

06:25PM | 12/31/04
Member Since: 11/27/04
172 lifetime posts
whoa.. de ja vue.


cellarwater

06:48PM | 12/31/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
One thing I might want to suggest; is there any way of sealing the bulkhead better?With plastic sheeting or roofing it? This might help cut down some of the water. C.

whalerron

05:23PM | 01/01/05
Member Since: 12/29/04
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The water issue is completely due to rain. If it doesn't rain, I don't have a problem. Even a foot of snow is ok because it melts slowly and the drain will take almost an infinite amount of water at a slow rate.

A roof is possible but because of where the stairway exits from the house, it would look ugly. Of course, I am covering the stairwell with plywood now when it rains and nothing is uglier than that.


cellarwater

11:42AM | 01/02/05
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
Looks like the drainage inprovements are the answer. C.

whalerron

06:56PM | 01/05/05
Member Since: 12/29/04
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It seems to me that if I fix this by digging a new drywell, it will eventually become a problem again. Each time it rains, a small bit of dirt will be washed down the drain. Over time, the drywell will fill with dirt and be rendered useless again. But, I guess there is no other way to fix this unless I put a roof over the stairs.

cellarwater

03:34AM | 01/06/05
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
Build a drywell with a cover that can be removed for cleaning. C.

no1countryfolks

06:21AM | 07/04/13
Member Since: 07/04/13
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I had the same problem, the stairwell drainage pipe is stopped up with tree root', sediment or what ever. the staiwell would fill up with water running down the steps and ground water around me basement was backing up into it also. The stairwell would fill up and run under the door and into my basement drain, so after a couple years of this I finally thought if it was coming in and going to the basement drain why not make a direct drain under the floor to the floor drain, PVC pipe from one drain to the other problem solved. I used 2" pipe and sometime's it seem's to be a little small with a lot of rain so if I did it again I might use a little larger pipe. You also should cosider some type of screen to keep sediment and sludge from stopping up basement drain. GOOD LUCK

BV004783

09:01AM | 06/24/14
My exterior basement steps do not have a drain. It has a small "trench" 1" wide and 3/4" deep notched to the basement (unfinished) drain. Works fair unless there is a downpour. Can I just drill a 4" core and use the Gravel/sand drainage that is under the cement floor?

BV005338

06:32PM | 08/13/14
I know the type of drainage you have as I have the same style/problems. I believe the only way to fix it is to dig up all the old rocks/clogged nastyness. Then replace with a similar rock from your local rock dealer. I've also thought of covering the stairs with something similar to a carport to reduce the amount of rain caught by the stairs.

stadry

06:22AM | 08/21/14
Member Since: 08/19/14
17 lifetime posts
can't imagine who no one has posted the correct answer yet,,, put in a lawn grate 2 the btm of the stairs over a sump,,, put a pump in the sump & pump the collected wtr to a point where gravity allows it to drain away from the house,,, this is how any pro would resolve the issue - nec requires separate power line for exterior pump

we always use zoeller automatic m-53 pumps [ no $ interest, tho ] ( ebay - generally $ 120 + $ 20 shipping )

BV012382

02:06PM | 07/29/16
I am having the same issue. It only backs up with a downpour. I have someone coming out to break up the concrete and add a pipe going into my sump pump. I am lucky enough to have my sump pump close to my basement door and problem area. This way the sump pump will shoot all the water up and out instead of in my basement. good luck...


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