02:44AM | 04/13/04
Member Since: 04/12/04
3 lifetime posts
Happy Spring Everybody!

I need to replace one of my sump pumps. It kept tripping my circuit breaker. Impeller was fine. Plugged it in another outlet on the same circuit and it would go on but choke up and start to trip it again (Had it in a surge strip). It was a Flotec 2400 1/3 HP. The cords look brand new, but I was going to check if the motor was wet and the screws are so rusted, I gave up. So my 1st question is what type of housing would be best as I saw some that were cast iron, but that doesn't seem like it would be a "good" thing on a submersible pump. But the weight factor may be a bonus because I think what happened to mine is with the abnormally heavy rains here in the SF Bay Area, I believe it lifted the pump up. When I went to loosen the union, it was just sitting on top of the fitting. I know that the water also got high enough to float a metal chest around! So I think it may have burned the motor with continuous backwash (although it didn't smell).

My 2nd question is, the handyman who installed the pumps for my Mom, put them on a 15A double breaker that includes both pumps, the bathroom, 2 bedrooms (not really used), and one side of the living room (TV, Halogen Lamp (try not to use). I never had any problems before with both pumps going and using my blow dryer, except 2 weeks ago, my neighbors and I compared notes about spikes and drops and called PG&E and they said my line was the worst when they came out, but fixed them. Still, now that I know they're both on this circuit, it bothers me. I have an empty spot (breakout) in my box, and I'm wondering if it would be safer to hook at least one to a separate circuit.

I live on a hill below a golf course with a spring and pond and the underground water comes right down my way. Plus, we don't usually have such heavy rains, and I suspect the golf course didn't adjust their watering schedule, since many of us flooded that normally don't. Oh, and do you think Flotec-Simer is a decent brand and 1/3 HP is not too wimpy?

Thanks, you guys! It's supposed to rain for the next 3 or 4 days, so I can't do my usual piddlin' around!


Taking care of Daddy's digs!!

plumber Tom

11:02AM | 04/13/04
Member Since: 05/10/03
801 lifetime posts
yes the flo tech is a decent pump. 1/3 HP is ample enough.make sure your discharge piping is at leat 1-1/4". cast-iron bodied pumps in my opinion are the best. the best pump out there is the hydromatic. If you want to browse around. as far as the electrical load install the pump on a dedictaed line pritected with a gfi receptacle. The last thing you want is water on your floor due to an overloaded circuit. Hopefully cellarwater will add some insight to this thread. he's a deceny guy and know's his stuff.


10:04AM | 04/14/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
I hope we're not too late couple of things Flotec pumps are junk. You'll get at best 2 years from one of those. Get a Little Giant 8 or 9 cia or Hydromatic A1 or SD series. I'll call a 10 year life expectancy from either of those. Electrical Each individual pump on it's own breaker. If 2 pumps are on one breaker or fuse and one pump pops a fuse electricity is lost to both pumps.Let me know if I can be of more help. Thanks,C.


02:55PM | 04/14/04
Member Since: 04/12/04
3 lifetime posts
Thanks for your recommendations! I checked them out and the nearest distributors are too far to go to. ********** carries "Wayne" and here's a link to their descriptions.

They're cast iron and in my price range. What do you think about this brand?

Also Ace has several models and sometimes they are made by good manufacturers... sometimes not. One is cast iron. Here's a link to their offerings.

I'm sure the Little Giant and Hydromatic are the premium pumps and I appreciate your expert advise. If I was sure I was going to be able to live here 10 more years, I'm sure they would be worth it, but I couldn't even find out how much extra they cost. If you have any input about these, I would value it. It hasn't started raining yet. Maybe because we're on the coast the forecasters can't seem to get it right 85% of the time! :)

Thanks again, you guys!


Taking care of Daddy's digs!!


05:10PM | 04/14/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
Did'nt get the store on B-B. saw **********.If it's H-D's get the Ridge aquapro or the Wayne spv 500.the hardware store brands are Waynes in diguise.Buy the cast iron or bronze pump. hard pipe the pump with p.v.c. pipe up to it's union connection. Drill a small hole(1/16)in pipe at base of pump if you're using a check valve. The pipe size will be 1-1/2".A 1-1/2 by 1-1/4 reducing coupling may be needed where the new pipe joins the old pipe.Also use pipe joint compound on the male adaptor at the pump.The next guy will thank you.Good Luck!p.s. clean the sump too!the new pump will thank you. C.


05:02AM | 04/15/04
Member Since: 09/16/02
250 lifetime posts
While you're doing this work, you may want to look at a back-up system. I just installed a system that runs off my city water pressure. Yes, you need city water!!! If the electric or pump ever fail the city water pressure starts pumping the sump water out. I don't completly understand how it works. Something about the Venturri principle, but I know it works.

The good thing is you don't have to be home to turn it on and it will run for as long as the city has water pressure.

The bad thing is you are wasting some water.

If you don't have city water pressure, they do have battery back-up or other systems also.



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