12:21PM | 04/09/05
Member Since: 04/08/05
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Just bought a house and the whole back yard is completely covered in moss. There is no grass. Need a somewhat inexpensive fix. Can i just plant grass seed, or do i have to remove or till the whole thing first? It is very shady and there are a couple of low spots that hold a bit of water. Need some advice,,,thanks.

doug seibert

08:08PM | 04/09/05
Member Since: 08/10/02
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Where are you nate ?

I think Locale info is important here......

just what the heck kind of moss do you have......

and soil that holds water after a rain.......for hours....days ?


09:28PM | 04/15/05
Member Since: 04/08/05
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I live in northeast Ohio, just west of Cleveland about 1 minute from Lake Erie. I don't know what kind of moss it is. Moss that you would find in the woods...thick and green. The end of the back yard holds water for about a full week, pending no more rain. The woodline is built up about 8" higher than my yard along with a brand new house being built next door with a raised foundation. I need to figure out some kind of drainage. New at this whole home-owning thing.


06:42PM | 04/17/05
Member Since: 04/08/05
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i saw a show on t.v. the other night about digging a 1/4" grated slope ditch and putting a large PVC pipe with holes drilled in it and wrapped in some kind of material, then covering it up with gravel and then dirt and sod. do you think that this would be an effective cure to my problem? let me know......thanks.....Nate by Cleveland, OH.


06:02AM | 04/18/05
Member Since: 01/30/05
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I believe you are referring to a "french drain", Nate (1/4 inch grade pitch per foot is minimum).

with the swamp like conditions you're describing, until you resolve your "drainage issues" attempting an alternative "ground cover" to your moss right now most likely would be a wasted effort. Also keep in mind that moss's ability to out-power grass is reliant on shade and usually poor drainage issues as you describe and extremely compacted soil as moss doesn't require an extensive "rooting" system is rather anerobic (spelling, sorry, but "lack of oxygen" in the soil underneath), and grass and most plant materials require oxygen to their root systems. killing off your moss now will leave you with a mud area when it rains, and may subject you to further soil errosion. Your #1 priority is a proper drainage. Green scaping (new plant material) is #2.


08:06AM | 04/18/05
Member Since: 01/30/05
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K-2 regards to that Misc forum post...:

Email missed? May be because I didn't send you one, as...idiot that I am I didn't realize that there was a link to the email for each forum's moderator UNTIL you mentioned it! LOL.... (more unfortunate, or funny, is that it is not unusual for me to miss what is RIGHT in FRONT of my NOSE, on a regular basis, especially links on web-pages!).

I also am still completely clueless as to how to send an email to anyone I see post here unless they include their address in their post (not that I necessarily would send an email in the first place!LOL).

Unfortunately I am not very talented in the web-surf arena, I also usualy fail to see that tube of neosporin or the bottle of tylenol on the center shelf FRONT in the center of the medicine cabinet when I NEED it/them, I'm convinced the house troll moves it only when I need it, or uses some super special camoflage...then makes it poof appear the next time I'm looking there when NOT in need!




11:02AM | 05/04/05
Member Since: 01/30/05
361 lifetime posts
Since you mentioned you're in NE Ohio, I think you'll find this link especially helpful for your gardening/landscaping challenges:

It is a wonderful resource, especially since they're meeting your local conditions.

Regards to Moss in the lawn, a complitation from that site:

Moss Control:

"Many homeowners believe that moss can kill or out-compete turfgrass when, in fact, moss grows where environmental conditions challenge turf growth and establishment. Generally, moss thrives in areas with poor drainage, insufficient sunlight, inadequate air circulation, low fertility, low or high pH, compacted soil, or any combination of these conditions."

"Although several materials are labeled for moss control, they are considered a temporary solution (and most are limited in application to "spot treatment" only. Moss can be successfully managed by correcting conditions that challenge turf establishment and growth. Nutrient and pH imbalances can be corrected by using a soil test and proper fertilization. Soil compaction may be alleviated by core aeration. Insufficient sunlight can be corrected by planting shade-tolerant grasses, such as fine fescue, or shade-loving ground covers, such as English ivy or pachysandra. Inadequate air circulation can be improved by thinning lower tree branches."

I hope you find that site and the aforementioned information on Moss Control helpful.

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