Latest Discussions : Windows & Doors

halochopper

06:46PM | 03/14/05
Member Since: 03/13/05
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I just found out tonight my builder has changed windows from another brand, American something I think..., to MW Windows. I'm very concerned about this from what I read.

Sadly I don't have the BRAND name anywhere in writing, just that they must be double hung, vinyl, double pane.

What if any have you heard? Can I contact you directly?

baseball3

06:00AM | 04/07/05
Member Since: 04/06/05
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If they are the same MW windows that were put into my house almost 5 years ago, you should be worried. I had all my back windows replaced because they leak so bad. If you google Tadian homes/lawsuit, you should find some articles about the lawsuit that talks about these windows. If you need more info, e-mail me....

AB

doctormg

03:04PM | 11/28/05
Member Since: 11/27/05
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We have 21 MW windows in our 7 year old house.

In a blowing rain these windows leak badly. A

fixed window in a dormer has done extensive

damage to the wall below it. MW and my builder

are of no help. I would appreciate any feedback.

sara179

07:12PM | 11/28/05
Member Since: 11/27/05
1 lifetime posts
Hi,

OUr home is 4 years old and we used M & W casement windows...we have a problem with one window rotting....we can't find a contractor in our area to replace ...we live in Atlanta...how do suggest I locate someone....thanks, sara www.sara179@charter.net

LSST288

09:59AM | 12/01/05
Member Since: 11/30/05
3 lifetime posts
Our house was built in 2004 and we have had problems with our MW windows, too.

While under construction 3 installed fixed windows leaked and MW sent the independent contractor they use to reseal the windows. That stopped those leaks.

Last Dec. after living in our house for 2 weeks, the builder finally sent a window washer to clean the windows. The window washer used a 5 inch razer blade to clean the windows. There were no labels to remove-he just used the blade all over the glass! Well. MW window glass is VERY soft- especially the tempered glass. 12 of our windows were scratched beyond repair.

It has taken 1 year to have all 12 pieces of glass replaced. We have had MW send wrong windows, windows with large scratches in between the twin glass, windows with no low-e when my originals have low e, wrong grid patterns, and one had lost its low e seal .I complained to MW about their quality control issues.MW uses a couple of different companies to make the glass for them so MW would just say it was out of their control.

The installers MW uses did not show up on several occasions when they said they would.

They were terrible about returning phone calls. The installers forgot to seal one of the windows and after water leaking in for 2 months they finally came out and sealed it.

The last set of replacement glass was placed in two windows 2 weeks ago. We had a wind driven rain on Tuesday and water poured in from a large 6x6 window. drywall is badly damaged.

I called the installers who promised to show up yesterday. They did not show up. I called MW and complained( for the umpteenth time!) and today they sent their own technician. The installers did not seal the glass completely. There were large gaps of missing silicone and one window had no silicone at the top. The tech took lots of photos and resealed the glass himself.

We plan on being in this house a long time and I am very concerned about the long term durability of MW windows.

My builder still uses MW windows even though he is aware of my problems with MW and their installers.

I hope today will be the end of a one year long , very stressful situation.

LSST288

10:13AM | 12/01/05
Member Since: 11/30/05
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Do you have your warrenty info?

I posted on the MW rotting seal post about my situation. Fortunately our house was still under the builders warranty when we had our MW problems.

The MW tech told me today that I should check the silicone seal at least once a year to make sure it is still intact and that after 10 years or so I may need to have silicone added to insure the seal.

I looked at my MW warranty and it only applies to the original home owner. Are you the original owners? The warranty is very limited and of course benefits MW over the consumer.

LSST288

04:15PM | 12/01/05
Member Since: 11/30/05
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I accidently posted a reply(above) to another post here. Sorry

LSST

robin35

12:17AM | 07/26/06
Member Since: 07/25/06
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YES, I HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEMS. HOUSE LESS THAN 2 YEARS OLD. WINDOW SASH BUBBLING UP CRACKING AND THE WOOD IS EXPOSED.I'M SICK. THEY SAID THEY COULD FIX IT WITHOUT REPLACING THE WINDOWS. I HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS. WINDOWS ARE VINLY CLAD.

robin35

12:19AM | 07/26/06
Member Since: 07/25/06
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DON'T DO IT. MY WINDOWS ARE AWFUL LESS THAN 2 YEARS OLD.

savannahbray

05:20AM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 08/08/06
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Do you have any current information concerning these windows? I have more than 50 mw windows in my home; the casements on the front have been replaced with new mw casements and they are AGAIN LEAKING WATER INTO MY WALLS!!! The other windows leak water and let dirt and dust blow in when there is any wind at all! I am at my wits end!

savannahbray

05:22AM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 08/08/06
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You may contact me; we have HUGE problems with MW Casements and regular vinyl clad double hung windows.

kathiebray@nospamhotmail.com remove the word nospam in email address.

hunter936

03:59PM | 09/26/06
Member Since: 09/25/06
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I have the casement, vinyl-clad wood windows that were installed in 1998. Of my 30 windows, about 25 of these were replaced at 5 years due to leaking/rot. Warranty covered this, but I guess I'm on my own when my warranty expires in 2 years. I think they leak at the bottom where the glass and the plastic gasket meet. Any ideas on how to prevent?

Based upon my experience, I would not recommend MW - ever!

missalbany92

06:48PM | 11/01/06
Member Since: 10/29/06
3 lifetime posts
You may contact me regarding any issues with MW Windows. I have a 3 year old house with many of the same issues I've read on this site - rotten wood interior and exterior, peeling and chipping paint, mold/mildew in walls from leak, etc. Our walls are torn out down to studs now to locate leak and we found that the windows are leaking in bottom corners. Does anyone know specific reasons for the leaks? Also, any class action plans?

missalbany92@aol.com

missalbany92

04:25AM | 11/04/06
Member Since: 10/29/06
3 lifetime posts
You reference a 7 year warranty if I'm reading correctly. How did you get anything replaced within 5 years under warranty? I've found it no use to deal with MW corporate - they are covering up the problem and my builder is a joke.

kristinelewis13

10:17AM | 12/10/06
Member Since: 12/09/06
2 lifetime posts
My husband and I just purchased a 1.5 million home 7/31/06 the builder installed MW windows and MW windows LEAK...WE had to move out of a brand new house 9/15/06 for a month to remove the mold in our house...the builder is still trying to fix the house, the windows and much more...after reading the posted comments...this is very disturbing...we will take legal recourse

snookie

03:28AM | 02/10/07
Member Since: 02/09/07
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we also have mw windows in a modular home we just purchased from Pro-built Homes in PA. The home is located in New York state.

We moved in October 2006 and have noticed water/ice build up on windows...contacted company and to-date they have done nothing for us...we are going to have replaced before they do any more damage and then sue Pro-built homes

snookie

04:06AM | 02/10/07
Member Since: 02/09/07
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by any chance is this a modular home...we have mw windows installed and they are junk...Pro-built Homes in Mifflintown, PA was the builder...be aware of this company...they do NOT build the quality product they say they do.

snookie

04:11AM | 02/10/07
Member Since: 02/09/07
11 lifetime posts
We also have some serious problems with mw windows...we have ice/water build up on them and our contractor [Pro-built Homes, in Mifflintown, PA] have done nothing for us. They keep referring us to MW windows who sends us literaute on Anderson windows and articles on how we have too much moisture in our home. We move in this house in October 2006 and have nothing but problems with the windows. You open them to clean them and they fall right off the track and tons of water poor out of them. It's time to sue both the modular home manufacturer and MW windows.

snookie

09:21AM | 02/10/07
Member Since: 02/09/07
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We just had a modular home built and moved in Oct 2006 with these mw windows...they have water/ice on them. When you try open them the silver bar slides off and the window slides out and water runs out of them. Our modular home was manufactured in Mifflintown, PA by Pro-built Homes and we live in Upstate, New York...Are you planning on suing....we are as Pro-built keeps brushing us off and MW windows has done nothing to rectify this problem...the problem will keep getting worse as this house is 3 months old and windows are always wet/soaked.

zimmerc01

08:10AM | 03/07/07
Member Since: 03/06/07
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I thought I was alone until I ran into the postings on this site. I have been in our house 1.25 years. It is a modular house by Deltec. We had the MW windows (low E, etc) installed at the factory because we thought it would have tighter tolerances. One of the windows was broken in transit. It was over six months before we got it resolved with MW.

In 2/07 I noticed two of the casement windows were clouding up. I suspect that the seal has been broken. MW is willing to replace the windows but is unwilling to send anyone to the house to ensure that the sizes and style are correct.

Meanwhile, the back bedroom casement window has begun leaking/freezing.

We live in western Massachusetts and there are no MW field reps in the area.

Excop44

07:09AM | 03/12/07
Member Since: 02/05/07
3 lifetime posts
Welcome to the club Zimmerc01. Keep harrassing your builder, he is the one that is ultimately responsible. We called and emailed pictures to our builder every day and asked him what he was going to do about our situation. He finally caved in and the next day we got a call from MW, but as I stated in my previous post, they sent the window supplier from the lumber yard to the house. I called them (MW) back directly and told them that this would not suffice. Now they are sending a person from GEM services this Wednesday to take care of the problems. It's truly sad to see people sinking their life savings into a "dream" home only to be met with misery and regret. Hang in there and keep calling!

Excop44

07:56AM | 03/15/07
Member Since: 02/05/07
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GEM Services, which I found out is a field service rep for MW, came to our home yesterday to look at our window situation. What he ended up doing was inserting felt and foam pads at various locations in the window which he said will greatly reduce the wind infiltration. What he did find on our fixed windows was that water was getting by the outside seal and pushing its way to the inside of the home. He had to go out and re-seal the window from the outside. He also found that water was getting in from around most of the windows in the home, this we took up with the builder who now sends people to spray water directly at the windows and go in and remove the molding around the windows and see where the water is coming from. Ready for this? The water is coming in not only from around the window, which by the way all the siding around the windows has to come off so they can seal them the right way this time, but it is coming in because the water has no where to go due to the design of the window and drains backwards into the home. According to the carpenters, this is a big design flaw in the window itself. Imagine that!

Flo999

09:19AM | 04/06/07
Member Since: 04/05/07
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I found this discussion while searching for leaking windows repair.

We have a house in Phoenix area and are experiencing water leaking issues with our windows.

How can we tell if our windows are MW windows? We don't have contact info of the previous owner and we are now very worried about the problem.

A contractor from a glass company suggested applying clear silicon sealant along the edges where the glass meets the frame. He cannot guarantee that this will stop the leaks.

Excop44

08:39AM | 04/10/07
Member Since: 02/05/07
3 lifetime posts
I will look at our windows and see if I can find where MW puts their name on them. I know that the original sticker on the window had MW written on them, but that won't do you any good. I will get back to you Flo999.

9131947

06:44AM | 04/20/07
Member Since: 04/19/07
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WE JUST PURCHASED A NEW HOME IN NORTH CAROLINA. IN LESS THAN A YEAR OUR WINDOW SASHS WERE SWOLLEN IN THE CORNERS AND A WALL IN THE GARAGE WAS MOLDED. A MW WINDOW REPRESENTATIVE CAME TO THE HOUSE AND VERIFIED THE DAMAGE WAS CAUSED BY A FLAW IN THE DESIGN OF THE WINDOWS, 18 OUT OF 20 LEAKED. HE DID A QUICK FIT BY CAULKING THE CORNERS AND INDICATED WE WOULD HAVE NO FURTHER PROBLEMS. I DON'T BELIEVE A QUICK FIX IS THE ANSWER. MW WINDOW WARRENTY OFFICE WILL NOT ANSWER THE PHONE NOR RETURN ANY CALLS LEFT BY MESSAGE TO DETERMIN WHO IS GOING TO MAKE THE REPAIRS CAUSED BY THERE DEFECT.

kmayo1942

10:19AM | 04/20/07
Member Since: 04/08/07
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What type of windows are you having a problem with? Are they all vinyl or wood covered with vinyl? Casement windows seem to be causing more problems that the double hung.

If anyone has a model number or name of the window style it would help.

par404

06:40PM | 04/20/07
Member Since: 04/19/07
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All windows are not created equal. I am interested in knowing the type of windows. Clad, All wood, casement, etc.

snookie

02:04AM | 04/24/07
Member Since: 02/09/07
11 lifetime posts
I am sorry to tell you the quick fix will NOT work...we also have a new home [Oct '06] and MW windows hired a subcontractor to come and place small blocks of foam on inside corners to try and prevent all the ice build up on the inside of our windows.

It did NOT work.

Our builder, Pro-built homes in Mifflintown, PA has done nothing for us but has obviously decided these are junk windows and now installs Anderson windows in their homes they build. [After I told them about this site]

Be aware of modular home builders such as Pro-built homes...they use less than sub-standard quality products and will not back the products they place in your home.

bearsmom

06:04AM | 05/17/07
Member Since: 05/16/07
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We built our house in 1991 and used all wood MV windows. We painted and sealed them. A couple of years ago we noticed that the sills on each and every window was beginning to rot, even though the paint still looked fine. We've started to replace our windows with vinyl construction windows from Home Depot. I hope we have better success with these.

bearsmom

04:54AM | 05/18/07
Member Since: 05/16/07
2 lifetime posts
I meant MW windows!

zimmerc01

11:13AM | 05/21/07
Member Since: 03/06/07
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I had contacted MW about the clouding issues (moisture in between the panes)and they readily admitted that the window should be replaced and that it was a warranty issue. They said send the dimensions and they would send a replacement right away. I told them I didn't feel qualified to measure windows and install them myself. I was told that there were no sales reps in the area, but they could recommend an installer in the eastern part of the state.

Deltec picked up on the postings on this site and called me asking what the problem was. I explained, gave them the details of the window from the construction plans, and they said that they would be in contact with MW.

True to their word, a few weeks later, I got a call from MW that a replacementwindow had been shipped and someone would be contacting me to install it. I received a call from their sales rep ( who is in our area), we arranged a Saturday for installation, and on 5/19 the widow wasa replaced in about 30 minutes. Everything fit with the right beading, etc.

Will this window be any better than the one it replaced? I would like to think so, but in any event I have Deltec on my side.

gardeneva

11:20AM | 05/21/07
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
I can tell you firsthand that the replacement panes MW provided me did the same exact thing ... MW Windows are worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5992 mw window  replaceme

edistobob

12:30PM | 05/26/07
Member Since: 05/25/07
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I have not noticed any problems in 3 years except in winter, the air blows in on the sides where they come together. These vinyl double hung appear not to be leaking water,(how do I know for sure?), however these windows were installed in a icf "concrete" house.

Also how do I find out what the db rating is for wind pressure? thanks for the help. Edistobob

gman54

06:51AM | 06/07/07
Member Since: 06/06/07
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I not sure what a mw window is, I do have a window that is rotting on the bottom! and I have to replace.

mattburr

07:14AM | 06/09/07
Member Since: 03/20/06
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MOST CAUSES OF AIR LEAKAGE AT THE POINT WHERE A HUNG WINDOW MEETS IS DUE IS DUE TO THE WINDOW NOT GETTING SHIMMED AT THE CHECK RAIL (THE PLACE WHERE THE BOTTOM SASH MEETS THE TOP SASH) THIS CAUSES THE WINDOW SIDES TO BOW OUT AND CAUSES A GAP BETWEEN THE SASH AND JAMB OF WINDOW UNIT.

THANKS,

MATTHEW BURR

BUYER - WINDOWS AND DOORS

VILLAGE HOME CENTER / dba COOPER BUILDING MATERIALS

4650 HIGHWAY 7 NORTH

HOT SPRINGS VILLAGE, AR 71909

EMAIL: MBURR@CBMCCI.COM

macsmorgan

08:32PM | 11/18/07
Member Since: 11/18/07
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I have a 4000 square foot house that has sills rotting on mw windows. The finger joints let go at a year in the house on all my double and triple windows. The windows will not hold paint and the window sills have almost completely rotted away on 7 of 33 windows. I am trying to sell this house and MW will not return calls nor will the warranty department answer their phones. I have had a rep out to the house and they sent me new sashes for 13 windows which to me only admits guilt. Hang in there, maybe we just need to get together and file a class action suit against the manufacturer to get all of our windows replaced with windows of our choice at their expense. My windows are only 6 years old.

docmot

09:55AM | 02/01/08
Member Since: 01/31/08
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My house is 5 years old. I have had occasional leaks in 2 or 3 of my windows. The windows were replaced, but still leak. Now my bedroom windows, 4 of them are leaking, and the rain appears to be pooring from the window sill!

Any suggestions? My neighbor has the same problem with window over foyer.

JJ

jscales1

04:26PM | 02/13/08
Member Since: 02/12/08
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my wife and i built our house 4 years ago and we have mw windows and doors thru-out and we have been very satisfied with mw windows!

scdoc1

03:18AM | 02/16/08
Member Since: 02/15/08
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We live in Columbia, SC and have a house that is approximately 14 years old. We purchased the house about 4 years ago, and because of plantation shutters did not notice the rotting MW windows. With the exception of windows on porches that get no rain exposure, virtually all the windows are showing some degree of rotting wood. Unfortunately they are out of warranty, and even if they were, I would not replace them with MW windows.

spoondrift

11:37AM | 02/18/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
I bought a log cabin home (shell) 4 years ago and am finally moving in. The Mw Windows were already in and I always thought that they looked cheap. well there is not ONE window in the entire house that doesn't leak. The huge dbl pane windows in the front all leak and the seal has broken on most. The water seems to come in the bottom corner of the windows where the glass meets the wood. This is very depressing. Do we have any recourse? The house has been a true money pit. The windows are all wood dbl hung.

yllaker

10:40AM | 02/24/08
Member Since: 02/23/08
2 lifetime posts
Just prior to winter, I went around all my deck windows to see they were

all closed well and couldn't believe

when I found most all of my MW casement windows installed in '96 were

rotting badly though the paint did not

show signs of this problem. I am at

a loss as to how to approach this as

I was not aware of problems such as I

have until researching how they may be

repaired and found all these problems

on this web-site. I am very surprised

and hope to get help on this issue. I do know that all are Marvin Windows & wonder if that is the same as those all referred to as MW. Thank You

spoondrift

06:41AM | 02/25/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
Don't know if MW stands for Marvin but probably are. I too was sick to see all the postings on rotting windows because mine are headed in that same direction. I called the company and now have a Claim#. Someone was going to come out to "repair" them this Thursday but I had to cancel because I have a commitment. They are going to call to set up an inspection. I am not holding out too much hope after what I have read on this site.

kristinelewis13

06:47AM | 02/25/08
Member Since: 12/09/06
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Unfortunately the only solution is to put in replacement windows. The windows leak we had them professionally tested. They leak in the corners behind the walls.

docmot

05:17PM | 02/25/08
Member Since: 01/31/08
4 lifetime posts
Welcome,

Just curious how you came upon this site. I "googled," leaking windows, and came upon this site.

If you are a "satisfied" customer, what are you doing on this site, and how in the heck, did you find US!!!???

spoondrift

05:30AM | 02/26/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
I googled MW Windows and found this site. I am NOT a satisfied customer. I have 30 leaking windows and am NOT happy especially since I found this site and realized that MW windows are worthless as well as the company and their warranty. Is anyone interested in starting a class action suit?

gardeneva

06:47AM | 02/26/08
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
Sign me up for that! All of the windows in our home are worthless! How can a group of people initiate a class action lawsuit? What are the steps that need to be taken?

spoondrift

04:35AM | 02/27/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
Don't really know how to do it but there are sooo many dissatisfied customers all with the same problem. Does anyone out there know how to go about a suit? I will try and research it.

keithrhonda1

04:42AM | 02/27/08
Member Since: 07/05/07
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It has been mentioned that there are MANY people that have this common problem. I agree that there are a few, but with the many thousands of installations, there are in fact just a very limited few. I doubt it could get Class Action Status. Remember, it is human nature to complain about the bad, but not post the good. My builder uses MW and in our neighborhood, 80% of the houses have these windows and there is not a single complaint. I feel for those that have had problems and think that the support that was received is a crime, but I do not think that Class Action is the way to go - single case maybe.

gardeneva

06:00AM | 02/27/08
Member Since: 11/30/06
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I found this regarding class action lawsuits :

http://www.lawinfo.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/Client.lawarea/categoryid/63

gardeneva

06:07AM | 02/27/08
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
The same builder who built our home also built many other homes within our community and many of the other homes have problems with their MW Windows too.

BTW .. it is not only the builder who we could get no satisfaction from but also MW Windows too. MW wants to place blame directly on the installer (builder). MW sent us several replacement windows but each replacement was did exacly the same thing ... broken seal and leakage!

We have had our windows inspected and it was determined that the window was the problem NOT the installation of the window.

theracer

10:12AM | 03/06/08
Member Since: 03/05/08
1 lifetime posts
MW windows is a different company than Marvin Windows. MW windows is in Rocky Mount VA and Marvin windows is in Roanoke Va.

I too don't have any faith in MW windows. I also have them.

djc7447

09:21AM | 03/10/08
Member Since: 03/09/08
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make sure the outside casing is sealed.

BUTLERSPECIALTYCONSTRUCTION

06:04PM | 03/30/08
Member Since: 03/29/08
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IF THE WINDOW HAS BEEN REPLACED, AND IT WAS FLASHED PROPERLY THEN WATER IS GETTING BEHING THE WINDOW AT AN ABOVE SOURCE. FOR INSTANCE, WATER CAN AND WILL GET BEHIND BRICK OR VINYL, AND WHEN IT DOES IT CAN RUN DOWN THE EXTERIOR SHEATHING AND IN ANY CRACK OR SPACE THAT IT COMES TO. LEAKS WILL NORMALLY SHOW UP AT WINDOWS AND DOORS BEFORE IT DOES THROUGH DRYWALL, AND WHEN IT DOES, IT GIVES THE APPEARANCE THAT YOUR WINDOWS OR DOORS ARE LEAKING. LIKE I SAID, IF YOUR LEAKING WINDOWS WERE REPLACED AND FLASHED PROPERLY WITH AN ADHESIVE MEMBRANE TAPE, AND YOU STILL HAVE LEAKS, THEN YOU NEED TO REMOVE YOUR SIDING OR BRICK TO CHECK FOR OPENINGS IN YOUR SHEATHING.

spoondrift

05:49AM | 03/31/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
The home is a log cabin. The MW people are coming out Friday to replace 25 sashes. Don't know how that will solve the problem but that is what they are doing.

BUTLERSPECIALTYCONSTRUCTION

06:47PM | 04/01/08
Member Since: 03/29/08
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THE PROBLEM COULD BE COMING FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACES. SOME THINGS TO CHECK FOR COULD BE; USE A 2' LEVEL AND PLACE IT ON THE WINDOW SILL, IF THE WINDOW IS LEVEL THEN THE BULB SEAL( A PC. OF WEATHERSTRIP ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BOTTOM SASH ) WILL BE ABLE TO FORM A WEATHER TIGHT SEAL, IF THE WINDOW IS OUT OF LEVEL, THE BULB SEAL IS NOT BEING ALLOWED TO PERFORM. CHECK THE SEAL BETWEEN THE GLASS AND THE SASH FRAME, THESE WINDOWS ARE MASS PRODUCED LIKE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING, WITH LITTLE TO NO QUALITY CONTROL. IF THEYARE VINYL WINDOWS, THEY WILL NORMALLY HAVE A GASKET LIKE SEAL BETWEEN THE GLASS AND THE FRAME, IN SOME CASES SILICONE WILL BE USED IN ADDITION ON THE EXTERIOR. MANY TIMES YOU CAN FIND VOIDS IN THE SILICONE WHICH ALLOWS THE WEATHER AND WATER TO GET TO THE GASKET OR SASH TAPE ( WHICH IS BASICALLY A SINGLE OR SOMETIMES DOUBLE SIDED FOAM TAPE) CAUSING IT TO DRYROT AND ALLOW WATER TO PASS FREELY. THE WINDOW MANUFACTURE IS NOT ALWAYS TO BLAME, THE WINDOW IS ONLY AS GOOD AS IT IS INSTALLED. BULB SEAL IS AVALIBLE IN DIFFERENT SIZES, USUALLY FROM THE WINDOW COMPANY, IF YOUR WINDOWS ARE NOT INSTALLED LEVEL, A LARGER BULB SEAL WILL HELP TO CLOSE THE GAPS.

KIMike

04:56AM | 04/16/08
Member Since: 04/15/08
5 lifetime posts
Just got off of the phone with MW and of course they denied any warranty after 10yrs on the windows. Has anyone had any luck? They gave me the name of the warranty boss, Cale David cdavid@mwwindows.com I have not contacted him as yet(not optimistic)We put an addtion on the house 5 years ago and used MW unaware of the rotting issue in the original windows. Someone mentioned a class action lawsuit, has that happened? Thanks

gardeneva

05:06AM | 04/16/08
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
He will have you running endless circles, taking photos of all your windows both inside and out, asking technical questions you cannot possibly answer. My perception was his job was to wear you down. We still have no resolution.

spoondrift

07:34AM | 04/16/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
The MW repair man is here as we speak replacing 3 picture windows whose seals have broken. They have replaced 26 sashes that have leaked which might address the water problem where the glass goes into the wooden "frame" of the window but I don't know if that will address all the water that has damaged my sills at the corners and the trim work just above it. He did 'beef up' the stripping so hopefully all of this will work. MW has been extremely nice as has been the service tech.

KIMike

07:40AM | 04/16/08
Member Since: 04/15/08
5 lifetime posts
Thanks Spoondrift! I also recieved an email reply from MW so I'll keep my fingers crossed. I'll let all know what happens.

sraven101

10:37AM | 05/07/08
Member Since: 05/06/08
1 lifetime posts
im not sure who gave that info out but mw windows makes the glass at the plant themselves at the same time the frame and sash is made and put together there after its all been made

jkennedy23

08:13AM | 05/13/08
Member Since: 05/12/08
1 lifetime posts
i am very sorry to see all these postings. i also have over 35 windows in my home and am having the exact same problems. Just trying to get information on how you are handling this situation. thanks

Amadauss

06:17PM | 06/25/08
Member Since: 06/24/08
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All need to check out this site. Seems you might not have to much time left to get use of the warranty. 1 billion in debt. Does not look good.

http://triangle.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2008/05/05/daily39.html

spoondrift

03:45AM | 06/26/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
What does Ply Gem have to do with MW? MW is out of VA.

hovman41

04:58PM | 07/02/08
Member Since: 07/01/08
1 lifetime posts
I would like to know if anyone has taken MW to court yet? and if any outcome has happened?

We have a modular home built by Excel in 2003 and had problems like everyone else from the start drafty hard to open and close and so on.

Had factory rep come out and replace foam and felts to the point I can't close windows to lock as the sill is bent up. Unhappy face.

I have called and called and called only to get the run around from Kale and company.

Today I have called my lawyer and to serve them it will be a few hundred dollars but like others I have many windows and many problems.

They won't step up and the warranty is suppose to cover this.

yllaker

07:24PM | 07/05/08
Member Since: 02/23/08
2 lifetime posts
Since I posted on this web site,I have

received many comments on my problem

but, as yet have not found the problems from all of the respondents I

believe, Do Not have the windows I have. Most seem to be in manufactured

homes (which mine is not) and I wonder

if most of the respondents windows come from some window company on the

east coast. Mine are wood casement and

are manufactured at Warroad MN. Please respond to let me know if the

windows you speak of are the Marvin

Window, hence MW windows. Thank you

Yllaker

gardeneva

05:19AM | 07/06/08
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
Marvin and MW windows are NOT the same manufacturer.

Our MW windows are "rotten" and we will never purchase anything from MW Patriot again: http://www.mwwindows.com/

We are condidering replacing our windows with Marvin Infinity windows:

http://www.infinitywindows.com/

Amadauss

10:42PM | 07/06/08
Member Since: 06/24/08
2 lifetime posts
PlyGem is the parent company of MW.

lawnmowing

05:27AM | 07/09/08
Member Since: 07/08/08
1 lifetime posts
Who is your builder?

JackieW

05:58AM | 07/09/08
Member Since: 07/08/08
1 lifetime posts
My home is 14 years old and when we built it - we were told these MW vinyl clad windows were the best made and the most expensive. Well we live on the coast in South Carolina - can you say hurricane??? - and we have had a time. They are ALL rotting - we have replaced sashes, but of course the sills and everything are rotten now. Can anyone tell me if they got anywhere with MW?

KIMike

06:07AM | 07/09/08
Member Since: 04/15/08
5 lifetime posts
Sort of...We live on the Chesapeake Bay and we were sold 2 casements and 3 double hung lower windows at not much abocve cost. I took photos of the issues and sent them to Cale at MW and he quickly replied with the offer. I installed them myself, easily. Our originals are 16 years old. We don't know the future of the rest of them or the brand new ones we had installed in an addition 6 years ago but MW offered a quick and affordable solution. There is a class-action suit in progress with info on this site. You are far from alone.....Good luck

spoondrift

12:44PM | 07/09/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
I have had 32 sashes replaced. My home is only 4 years old. I have water damage on the sills but don't know if I caught the problem in time enough to prevent rot. They tried to tell me that the water damage was from condensation! LOL

So far I have not seen any more damage but I am not holding out hope that there will not be problems in the future.

gasdocjac

07:50PM | 08/21/08
Member Since: 08/20/08
1 lifetime posts
I built a modular home using Penn lyons as the modular company and MW windows in 2004. They have replaced all windows once and replaced the seals on another occassion. The second set of windows are already showing signs of water damage. the service altered the windows by placing silicone around the edges. Does this void the warranty? I also have structural damage from an oval window that has been leaking since day one. I want MW to refund what those windows cost to apply to a better window like Anderson. Any thoughts?

Kansa01

08:37AM | 11/03/08
Member Since: 11/02/08
1 lifetime posts
I had 19 Marvin wood (primed, not clad) windows installed in a home addition in 1992. So far....one transom upper window has been replaced because of a failed seal; the metal piece in the window jamb has been replaced; the pane of a lower sash has been replaced because of a mysterious crack that appeared in the center of the inner glass; the jambs of one window must be replaced because the metal clip pulled away from the plastic. And now I have the problem of everyone else.....rot on the sills and jambs of 9 of the 19 windows.

These are the primed wood windows, and they have been well maintained over the years. The rot was discovered during the annual paint touch up.

The interesting thing about the rot is that it is only in the corners which makes me think that, in addition to the poor wood quality, there is a design flaw. The screens fit very tightly in the corners and there is no way for water to drain effectively.

Marvin's answer?......the only solution is to replace the complete window.....at my expense of course.

Would I buy Marvin again -----never.

spoondrift

09:02AM | 11/03/08
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
Hey,

I don't even have screens so that can't be the problem. My rot is also in the corners. All the sashes were replaced by MW because of the water marks on the wood where the glass goes into the wood. when I asked about all the water marks and future rot in the corners - they just ignored me. It has been a nightmare.

gardeneva

02:16PM | 11/03/08
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
WONDERFUL !!!!! We just recently installed 16 Marvin Integrity windows - outside is Ultrex inside wood. I am PRAYING we have no problems as we had MANY with MW.

robin35

08:37PM | 11/03/08
Member Since: 07/25/06
3 lifetime posts
Brand new MW windows in 2005. Problems every year. Sashes have been replaced every year. With the same problem vinyl bubbles up off the wood. My dream home has been a nightmare. I sincerely mean this. I'm so sorry for anyone who has to go through this. My thoughts and prayers are with you

snookie

11:28PM | 12/06/08
Member Since: 02/09/07
11 lifetime posts
are you still interested in problems with mw windows as we have them installed in our home which is 2 yrs old and they are full of water/ice everyday in the winter months. We are in upstate ny

snookie

11:30PM | 12/06/08
Member Since: 02/09/07
11 lifetime posts
we also have mw windows in our 2 yr old home...they are horrible...the builder has been back a few times installing foam blocks, weather stripping, etc....nothing has worked...the builder tells us we take too many showers and that is what is causing the condensation...have you ever heard of this?

Billhart

03:41AM | 12/07/08
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
"the builder tells us we take too many showers and that is what is causing the condensation...have you ever heard of this?"

I know NOTHING about MW windows. I know nothing about the details of how you home is constructed. I know nothing about your living style.

But the builder does have a point.

Moisture control in modern homes is an important issue. And becoming more so with tighter build houses.

In some cases it can be controlled by RELIGIOUS use of PROPERLY installed bath and kitchen vent fans. Bathrooms fan should be timers are automatic controls.

Possibly makeup air source is needed or whole house heat exchange system.

But you need to monitor the moisture levels before you know what the problem is.

gardeneva

05:16AM | 12/07/08
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
Can you direct me to the class-action suit in progress?

highfiverdad

04:14AM | 12/14/08
Member Since: 12/13/08
2 lifetime posts
At less than one year of age my house had leaking M&W windows. Contractor left the state (TN) rather than finish house. At 3.5 years now I have significant rot in three rooms (on different sides of house) involving 16 windows. Is their a remedy to stop the leaks? I have tried 2 paid contractors and three times on my own to stop the leaks. What is the problem?

BTRLEXKY

03:56AM | 12/24/08
Member Since: 12/23/08
3 lifetime posts
Wow... I wish I would have found this thread a year and 1/2 ago. The rear of our home faces south and gets full wind and rain in every storm. 20 windows and two doors on the back of the house and we have experienced water leaks at every one of them. The builder did come back and re-flash them all, which helped a bit, but not 100%. Now with the economy, the builder had dropped off the face of the earth. This morning I get up (Christmas eve) and one of the doors is leaking around the glass. I could understand if it was blowing around the door, but this is actually coming in around the glass pane of the door. So now another round with MW warranty to see if they will do anything. 30 windows... uuggg.. it makes my head hurt to think about this. Anyone take any legal action to get replacements from another manufacturer?

jkennedy2323

05:21AM | 12/28/08
Member Since: 12/27/08
2 lifetime posts
have you had any luck with the lawyer route.

wataugan

03:45AM | 02/10/09
Member Since: 02/09/09
1 lifetime posts
Don't let him use them. My windows are only 5 years old and are separating by 3/16" on one side for 13 or my 29 windows. My builder with 45 years installing has never seen problem like this. MW claims install problem but Building suppy where I bought them say it is a common problem. Will not do a thing for them either.

Stay away from MW.........

BTRLEXKY

04:40AM | 02/10/09
Member Since: 12/23/08
3 lifetime posts
Where did you hear of a class action suit? Do you have any new info?

katherineross69

07:43AM | 02/21/09
Member Since: 02/20/09
7 lifetime posts
Well I think you're wrong. We just bought a newly built home with MW Windows, they are warped 1/2 of them do not close properly, and leak terribly and have only lived in our house for less than a month. We were told by the builder that these were great quality windows. Wished we did our reseach before the purchase on this home and these windows!!!! We are going to ask for them to be replaced and ask the township building inspectors to back us up on this request, or we are going to court!

katherineross69

10:33AM | 02/21/09
Member Since: 02/20/09
7 lifetime posts
We just bought a brand new built home and I think we have mw windows. I have noticed already that at least four of the windows will not properly close/seal out the cold air. Gaps of at least 1 inch to 1/4 of an inch. I have contacted our builder and I think I heard there is a law suit here in Michigan, Oakland Cnty against this MW window company. Is this true? What should we do? Can we make the builder change the windows since he did not disclaim this problem with the windows?

docmot

11:24AM | 02/23/09
Member Since: 01/31/08
4 lifetime posts
Hello,

My house was built in 2003. I have had leaking windows since 2003. Lower sashes have been replaced 3-4 times on a few windows. I have 8 lower sashes in my garage, that I am too bothered to replace.

I live in Burtonsville, MD,Builder was Winchester Homes

octdrew

06:25AM | 02/24/09
Member Since: 02/23/09
1 lifetime posts
We are about to build and and our builder (the best in the area) is spec'ing MW vinyl windows.

Having read all the horror stories can anyone out there determine whether people are having problems with the vinyl windows as well as the vinyl clad wood windows?

Does anyone out there have windows to recommend?

BTRLEXKY

06:37AM | 02/24/09
Member Since: 12/23/08
3 lifetime posts
Tell your builder to spec a different window and door. Stay far away from MW.

gardeneva

06:42AM | 02/24/09
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
Amen ... stay away from MW

spoondrift

08:17AM | 02/24/09
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
Stay AWAY from MW. Mine are all wood and have all been replaced once and the new ones are leaking.

I have Certainteed in another home (rental and am very happy with them. I've also had success with Anderson

katherineross69

07:00AM | 02/25/09
Member Since: 02/20/09
7 lifetime posts
I believe our windows are the Wood/vinyl clad windows. I had the rep from Pullum windows, a sales rep and our builder out here today discussing the windows. I've asked for literature on the specific windows we have. We will see it they actually produce it to me? The manager of Pullum seems sincere and wants to make sure we get these problems solved, so he is going to ask a rep from M & W windows to come out and look at the gaps in several of the windows that concern me. Four of the windows will be replaced due to damage that cannot be repaired otherwise. I'm only worried that these windows will not hold up over time and will need replacement within a short period of time. I hate salemen and the sales rep wasn't as convincing as to making sure it wasn't a manufacturing defect. His take is all windows have this gap even the large reputable companies like Pella. I will keep all posted of my on going situation and give any updates that I deem important. Wondering if all of these concerns on the web are the vinyl not wood product? Please reply!

spoondrift

07:12AM | 02/25/09
Member Since: 02/17/08
11 lifetime posts
As I already posted my windows are all wood and I have replaced all the ones that were not protected by a porch roof (4). The other 36 were replaced because of water damage. Many of the new replacements are now showing signs of water leaks. UGH Several of my place glass windows were not replaced because they tried to tell me that the damage was from condensation! I have no condensation on my windows. Another excuse used was poor installation. It seems to be a losing battle. At one point in this conversation we were told that the parent co. was going bankrupt - I wonder if that ever happened?

Dan1122

02:51AM | 03/01/09
Member Since: 02/28/09
1 lifetime posts
I'm glad I found this forum. Last week I noticed that the vinyl clad portion of several of our MW windows are cracking/bubbling. I'm going to contact MW and try to use the warranty route but after reading the posts listed on this forum I would definitely participate in a class action lawsuit if it were available.

MrJWalter

05:38AM | 03/11/09
Member Since: 03/10/09
1 lifetime posts
I found this site the same way, googled leaking window/partiot/ryan homes.

I have experienced multiple leaks in my new Ryan home. MW Partiot prvoded a field inspection that confirms Ryan Homes cut corners installing the windows, that the install falls well short of meeting the NAHB specifications. The inpsector informed me that in consideration of the issues discovered,the window warranty would likely become voided. The decision was left to MWPartiot service management.

After a week of silence, I called back and spoke to Mr. Cale David, MWPatriot Warranty Service Mgr. who informed me everything was fine and reminded me Ryan Homes buys a great number of windows. Translation, they only care about the sale!

katherineross69

11:37AM | 03/11/09
Member Since: 02/20/09
7 lifetime posts
Can anyone tell me the make/model of your windows? Our's I've been told are the 800 series, which on the MW site is referred to as the Freedom Series. We are still waiting for some replacements and the MW rep to inspect our windows. So I would be very interested to hear from anyone who is on this site to tell us which window you have. thank you in advance!

highfiverdad

03:51PM | 03/11/09
Member Since: 12/13/08
2 lifetime posts
Per your request, my leaking windows are all Twin-Seal all vinyl MW windows; with Low E coatings. Some of the leaking windows are with grill between the glass (G.B.G.) and some are without. I believe you have a wood/vinyl clad window situation? My windows still leak as of last rain storm.

kayak7

04:08PM | 03/11/09
Member Since: 01/16/07
1 lifetime posts
We have Freedom series (Wood- Vinyl clad) They all leak -All fifty

gardeneva

04:32PM | 03/11/09
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
The MW Windows we had were FREEDOM Double Hung FRDH3046SA; Low E/Argon; Vinyl outside; wood inside

mwebber

01:58PM | 03/21/09
Member Since: 03/20/09
1 lifetime posts
I've got a double casement, MW window. One of the frames of the window is completely rotted at the bottom. It's 6 yrs old. I've got MW side windows on each side of the front door, again 6 yrs old, where the side seals have sucked into the windows.

kcruze96

04:01AM | 03/23/09
Member Since: 03/22/09
2 lifetime posts
I noticed a post that said there are few problems. Probably posted by Marvin. I am having my 12 yr old windows replaced. All but the one that is an Anderson.

I own a carpet cleaning business and have noticed houses (built in the mid '90's)with Marvin Windows that are in the same condition. We are not alone.

Marvin paid on a class action suit in the mid '80s. I think its time they paid another.

KIMike

04:05AM | 03/23/09
Member Since: 04/15/08
5 lifetime posts
Many people think MW stands for Marvin Windows.....MW is a completely differnt company!

kcruze96

04:27AM | 03/23/09
Member Since: 03/22/09
2 lifetime posts
Hi kimike, please excuse the abbreviation. That was a pretty quick response. Less than a minute. You don't happen to work in Warroad. lol

KIMike

04:34AM | 03/23/09
Member Since: 04/15/08
5 lifetime posts
No, I've had the same probelms as everyone else.....I've replaced complete original casements that were 16 years old and sills in an addition that were 6 years old. The originals I bought from MW at a very ggod discount and the newre were repalced at no charge, I did the installation myself. I f I could afford it I would replace every one of my windows with another brand. Here is the email address for Cale David, the warranty person at MW. He'll need pictures of your damaghed windows. CDavid@mwwindows.com Good Luck

gardeneva

05:02AM | 03/23/09
Member Since: 11/30/06
11 lifetime posts
Good luck with sending photos to CDavid@mwwindows.com .... We sent pictures and from the photos alone he tried to place all blame on the builder. How on earth can one possibly do that without measurements, squaring, etc.... We got absolutley no help from MW and we just recently (2009), replaced all the MW windows in our home ... our home is now 14 years old but, we had problems with the MW windows from the very 1st year in our home and issues were NEVER resolved.

jkennedy2323

07:40AM | 03/27/09
Member Since: 12/27/08
2 lifetime posts
i am in the same situation as you. i have about 28 windows that need replacing, yuk. In any event, they are trying to give me replacement sashs to go in the original frames. The new sashs are made differantly, hardware in differant places etc. Did you have that issue as well or did you get new frames with your replacement sashs when you installed them yourself.

thanks

dobbsj

12:29PM | 07/19/09
Member Since: 03/10/07
3 lifetime posts
Our builder used these for new home in SC. They are the Classic brand double hung window. They have a design defect. They leak water onto the wood seal. I am sure thousands of homes have these defective windows.

Our home has brick veneer but these poor windows don't use brick molding. Walk away from buying home that uses windows without brick molding. If the home uses MW windows walk away. Don't trust the realtor when they say there is a warranty. Its not worth the paper it is printed on.

bogbridge

08:40AM | 07/20/09
Member Since: 07/19/09
3 lifetime posts
yes, we too have M&W windows, on our home in NC, which is 16 years old. We have repainted our home several times, but every window in the house is rotten, except those under a porch. This is not normal wear and tear.

bogbridge

08:52AM | 07/20/09
Member Since: 07/19/09
3 lifetime posts
Any class action suit going on??

our 16 year old house has every windodw rotten, and some wall damage as a result. It is disgusting!

And not the framers fault, he did a good job.

thanks,

Bogbridge

bogbridge

08:54AM | 07/20/09
Member Since: 07/19/09
3 lifetime posts
Our home in NC has M&W, and they are all rotten. Anyone joining you in your legal action?? It steams me to think they will get away with this.

farmwillie

06:30PM | 08/05/09
Member Since: 08/04/09
1 lifetime posts
When we built our house in 94 we went

to home improvement shows and talked

not only about windows but everthing

we could think of and what we always

heard was MW or Pella. I wished we had

went with Pella. I have 46 windows in

my home, they don't leak but the vapor

seal between the glass has rusted on

some of the windows (about9 )and have

fogged from the inside. They are vinyl clad wooden low E glass NOT

cheep windows.Will MW replace them,

so far no one will take responceability. My advice is BUY PELLA. PS if anyone knows how or who

to contact about the warranty please let me know farmwillie@aol.com

mer39319

03:52PM | 08/19/09
Member Since: 08/18/09
1 lifetime posts
my house is 5 years old and we are experiencing many of the isssues described in tihs thread. our builder is not returning our calls. is there any interest in starting a law suit?

unc1989

05:41PM | 09/01/09
Member Since: 08/31/09
2 lifetime posts
Have there been problems with the MW Aluminum clad windows too?

howardnlin

04:18PM | 09/03/09
Member Since: 09/02/09
2 lifetime posts
I have had trouble with rotting frames on quite a few mw windows.

They seem to rot from the inside out, and the paint on the surface is the last thing to go. Our home is 14 years old, and i have had it pressure washed half a dozen times. I suspect that may be when the water has gotten in. It looks like a bad design to me.

Alberto63

01:51PM | 09/04/09
Member Since: 09/03/09
1 lifetime posts
My house is only 11 years old and I just had to fix all the trimming around the windows because the wood was rotten. In addition, I had to replace 6 sashes because the seals were broken. I called MW and of course they told me that those windows only had 10 year warranty back in the mid 1990's. So I recommend to those home owners with MW windows to inspect your windows and call MW if you see signs of damage. These windows are HORRIBLE....

burchperch

09:36AM | 09/06/09
Member Since: 09/05/09
2 lifetime posts
Has anyone pursued this. Looking back at all these post since 2004 til now, it is quite ashame that we all are going to let this company screw us all... Doesn't seem quite right. Our home is 16 years old 90% of our windows are rotted or rotting... we replaced one, and you still can't open it...$540 later.

We all need to band together and get this going. What is the first step??

burchperch

04:03PM | 09/08/09
Member Since: 09/05/09
2 lifetime posts
Hello Mr. Miller

Has anyone else contacted you regarding pursuing a class action lawsuit??

919brown

12:53PM | 09/21/09
Member Since: 09/20/09
2 lifetime posts
We have had the same problem. MW has been giving us the run around for 2 years.

We need to find a lawyer and form a class action lawsuit.

pat630

06:01AM | 09/27/09
Member Since: 09/26/09
1 lifetime posts
Our windows are all rotten. 10 years old. Let me know if there is a class action lawsuit.

katherineross69

12:59PM | 10/06/09
Member Since: 02/20/09
7 lifetime posts
We have been getting no where with the builder or M & W. Although they keep coming out we contine to have problems with these windows. I've been noticing what looks like black spots, possibly mold on the basement window lower sills. These windows were never painted as of yet on the inside which are wood. Is this what everyone is talking about? It hasn't been more than 8 months since we bought our new home.

markathome99

10:23AM | 11/02/09
Member Since: 11/01/09
2 lifetime posts
Wow, glad I stumbled across this website. I too have MW double hung vinyl windows. They leaky air and water. I have discovered water damage in the walls around all my windows. I had the builder come out and he is going to have some contractors out tomorrow to determine if it is an installation issue. The wind blows along the sides of the windows so bad we stuff rags in the sides during the winter. During hard blowing rain, we get water in the house along the walls/carpet at each window.

I called MW about the wind, they sent me some foam blocks to put in the sides. Ha

danjohn

04:32PM | 01/03/10
Member Since: 01/02/10
1 lifetime posts
we also build an expensive house, being assured MW windows were/are good quality. Every stinking window is leaking air at the middle area. I can see daylight though each side. Jerks.

ghwinn

04:57PM | 01/03/10
Member Since: 01/02/10
1 lifetime posts
Is anyone complaining about the MIRA series all aluminum clad windows? My wife and I built a nice home with MW Mira. We paid extra $ to have our home spray foam insulated to make it as efficient as possible. It's frustrating to see the windows soaking wet or completely frozen. I realize the humidity might be slightly higher in a spray foamed home, but this extreme. I build homes for a living and have never had this issue. It's also my first time using MW.

katherineross69

07:39AM | 01/04/10
Member Since: 02/20/09
7 lifetime posts
Yes, we have been having the same problem with our new home as well. I think the bulders were trying to cut costs and got these windows cheap. We will never know of course. However, MW replace some of the windows todate and they have the same problems as the ones before. I hate to tell you this but we will all probably have to pay out of our own pockets and replace all of these MW windows. They just are not a good product that I can see. If you have a couch near one of their windows it is freezing!!!!

katherineross69

07:47AM | 01/04/10
Member Since: 02/20/09
7 lifetime posts
I'm in if this starts! Please let us know if one is started and I would be happy to give our input.

HalunenLaw

04:09AM | 02/26/10
Member Since: 02/25/10
1 lifetime posts
Halunen & Associates, a law firm that specializes in construction material lawsuits, is investigating a class action lawsuit against MW Windows for leaking and rotting windows.

You can contact them at http://www.halunenlaw.com or (866) 523-8533.

tedibria1

10:07PM | 03/02/10
Member Since: 03/02/10
1 lifetime posts
Three years and six months in our latest home. 45 plus MW windows. After reading these posts, I got out a flashlight and looked at over half of the MWs. Especially the ones prone to high winds and rain from common "nor'easters" and other high wind and rain in SE North Carolina. No sign of rot or unusual destruction. I wonder if other brands of windows and doors have similar problems like a lot of your posts describe. Good luck, and stay dry!

damwindows

01:36PM | 06/25/10
Member Since: 06/24/10
1 lifetime posts
I am in on any class action lawsuit against m&w windows. Have several m&w windows leaking. Two large picture windows, at $1400 each, in two center dormers that have leaked, even after trying to seal them with silicon and ruined the drywall below them to name just two. Do not use m&w windows, even if they are given to you!!!

docmot

03:55PM | 06/26/10
Member Since: 01/31/08
4 lifetime posts
So how do I get info about the lawsuit. My house was built in 2002, I settled in 2003, and whenever it rains, there are stains on the window sills. I have a garage full of replacement sills that I have not installed...this will be the 3rd installment

KarenJH

10:57AM | 11/15/10
Member Since: 11/14/10
2 lifetime posts
If anyone knows more about this I would like to know. I have at lease 30 windows plus 3 sets of sliding glass doors that are rotting. I had to screw the fixed panel of one set of doors to the frame yesterday to keep it from falling out. I plan to do further research to see what I can do.

kkr123

01:56AM | 11/27/10
Member Since: 11/26/10
1 lifetime posts
I have had several problems with my mw window. I keep replacing sashes at my expense. My house is only nin years old and these windows and doors are a mess.

Tamera111

05:07PM | 01/08/11
Member Since: 01/08/11
7 lifetime posts
You could call the manufacturer and make a complaint with all of the flaws you have found with these windows.

plp4041plp

01:29PM | 01/23/12
Member Since: 01/23/12
1 lifetime posts
I too have rotting window seals. Is there a suit against MW. I am going to have to replace at least 3 right now.

Bad Windows in Virginia

12:28PM | 03/09/12
Member Since: 03/09/12
1 lifetime posts
I have been in our home for 11 years. We noticed that the vinyl clad window sash has wrinkled up and the bare wood is showing. Of course my warranty has expired. No one at M & W would like to talk to me about helping me with this problem. I am interested in being included in the class action suit. Please someone contact me. I have about 30 windows in my house this will not be an easy or inexpensive fix.

atn

04:27PM | 04/20/12
Member Since: 04/20/12
2 lifetime posts

Until we searched leaking windows and found this site, we had no idea others were having the same kinds of problems with their MW windows. We have battled this since our home was built in 1996.

A legal investigation is being conducted by the lawfirm Halunen & Associates. Their info below:

http://www.halunenlaw.com/MW-Windows.shtml

email: infocenter@halunenlaw.com

phone: (612) 605-4098

Good luck to all of us!


howardnlin

11:41AM | 05/22/12
Member Since: 09/02/09
2 lifetime posts
We have same problem. Our home is fifteen years old, and our window sills are rotting out with the paint intact. It looks like the moisture goes right through the paint and primer. Primer does not do the job.

jocahop1

08:21AM | 07/10/12
Member Since: 07/10/12
1 lifetime posts
My house was built in 2001, North Carolina. MW casements throughout the home. We had a driving storm yesterday, water came pouring in the house between the transom window above and the triple casement below. This is not the first problem I've had, but the worse. Will be replacing as soon as possible. Don't know yet of possible damage in the walls.

clk430c

01:23PM | 10/05/12
Member Since: 10/05/12
1 lifetime posts
My house was built in 1999, and my contractor used M&W windows. I've had absolutely no problems with leaking, rotting, warping, opening or closing in all these years. So, my feeling is, everyone will experience a problem now and then with anything you buy. Perhaps all these negative comments are misdirected meaning that the contractor did not seal the windows properly when they were installed and it has nothing really to do with M&W. It's now October of 2012, and I'd use this type window again if I needed to replace them.

atn

03:17PM | 10/05/12
Member Since: 04/20/12
2 lifetime posts
Very happy and lucky for you. However, there would not be a class action lawsuit if so many others were not having a problem, as reported herein.

BV000359

12:28PM | 02/11/13
Joan, our windows are 17 years old. We have had moisture to get in between the glass on several of the windows and rust has formed. Is there anything we can do?

BV000501

10:52AM | 03/05/13
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05:18AM | 03/06/13
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BV000549

05:59PM | 03/08/13
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BV000755

11:48AM | 04/16/13
The lesson here is don't buy vinyl clad! Spend the extra money and get aluminum clad. #sadderbutwiser

BV002149

09:54AM | 09/23/13
Hello, I put the MW windows in my house. They are junk. I am sad to say that I am in the trade. The lumber I dealt with raved about them. Are there any lawsuits against the company? Jon

BV002424

12:16PM | 10/27/13
My house is 14 years old in North Carolina. I have the original wood sash non-low e MW that have been popular with builders and Stock Building supply. I can tell you that if you have a brick home and do not stay ahead of caulk and paint these have a lifespan of about 8 years or less. Your only real options are to replace with the Jefferson 300s sashes ((plygem AKA MW) or bring in the "replacement". Would be nice to hear from anyone that has replaced these with other brands and had success

wil22

07:10AM | 11/04/13
Member Since: 11/04/13
1 lifetime posts
I'M an independent contractor called in by home owner to investigate rotted trim. Upon investigation it was learned that the sill on M W windows is not seal to keep water from entering and rotting the sill and bottom of side jamb. The entire complex of 200 units has window problems. Also the seals are leaking and the sashes are rotting out at the bottom rails. During first phase of building ( 1998) the Realtor told builder of the problems. Any recourse that you know of?

BV005299

02:56PM | 08/10/14
I have a 5 year old house and About half of my windows have been replaced due to seals leaking. They are mw windows. Raleigh nc

BV007193

02:43PM | 03/05/15
If you are following this thread from the beginning be careful it looks like folks are mixing up M W windows with Marvin Windows. They are two separate company's and are totally unrelated. The thread started with rot issues on Marvin primed Units and has moved back and forth with Marvin and MW issues. To add to the thread from the perspective of a Millwork Salesman if your windows are 15+ years old its and you are having issues its just time for new windows. We see this sort of thing come up all the time and I tend to equate it to a vehicle. If your car is 15+ years old wouldn't you expect large issues? In general Marvin puts out a very high quality product but I am not sure about MV they seem like low end large development Units and I would not be surprised to see issues.

BV008182

05:18PM | 06/25/15
We replaced all 8 casement MW vinylclad windows on west side of house two years ago, with help from Cale David (now deceased) of Rocky Mount, VA. Now our fixed 6'6" square sashs are leaking water in storms. The MW settlement appears to offer almost nothing (10%) if out of 10 year warranty. Any suggestions?


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