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1927Craftsman

03:06PM | 04/18/03
Member Since: 04/17/03
20 lifetime posts
My foundation is over 80 years old, and has been neglected for most of its life. In some area’s the mortar is starting to turn to sand. Other areas the blocks are starting to bow out. I have dug in a few places and the footings are looking pretty bad too. Can I cut sections out of the wall and replace them? Can the footing be replaced with out taking out the blocks? Also if I replace a block that ties the wall into the house framing, how do I deal with tying it back in?

homebild

03:46PM | 04/18/03
Member Since: 01/28/03
693 lifetime posts
If you are a novice you cannot do it. You can make the problem worse.

Hire a proefessional.

Piffin

08:22PM | 04/18/03
Member Since: 11/06/02
1278 lifetime posts
Agree. If you need to ask here about this one, you could kill your self replacing foundation.

1927Craftsman

06:43AM | 04/19/03
Member Since: 04/17/03
20 lifetime posts
If money was not an issue here, I would just hire it out, but I have consulted professionals, and I guess since I look young, they must think I was born last night.
I realise that its not cheap to repair the foundation of the house, but to some estimates that I got just to "patch" the bad areas were ranging from 10K to 22K! I had called a man about raising the house, and digging a basement under the house and setting it back down on it. I told him I was just tossing the idea around, and wondered what it might cost. He asked the sq ft of the footprint of the house, and all that. Then told me what similar sized houses that he had done this with ran. Funny thing was, he was only 5 or 6K higher then these other fools.
I realise that its not something to be takin lightly, but you have to start somewhere. I need to atleast slow down the rate of failure. Money is a tight issue right now. So instead of watching it get worse, I want to do something about it.

homebild

07:15AM | 04/23/03
Member Since: 01/28/03
693 lifetime posts
Unfortuantely, rather than saving up or borrowing the money to have the job done professionally and done right, your and your money are going to be soon parted having the job done wrong...and with great risk to the structural stability of your home and the great risk of losing your life in the process.

Whoever said a fool and his money are soon parted could well have been thinking about you when he said it.....

Good thing there are code enforcement officers to stop fools like you from getting permits and killing themselves.

Piffin

09:42AM | 04/27/03
Member Since: 11/06/02
1278 lifetime posts
Homebuild,
I first thought you were being a little harsh calling him a fool but then realized that he first used the term in reference to legitimate contractors.

Maybe he can do the engineering, get the permits, dig it all out by hand, provide five thousand dollars worth of jacks and cribbing, erect safety fencing, haul the tons of debris to a legal landfill, pay the fees and insurance, rent concrete forms, build the forms up plumb, tie the rebar right, and pour the concrete, backfill and replant the yard, avoid angering the neighbors, and do it all for less than &22,000 and still not call himself a fool. For cryin out loud, give him the benefit of the doubt...


dreamhome1

04:06PM | 05/01/03
Member Since: 04/13/03
5 lifetime posts
Have you thought about digging 2 foot by 2 foot square piers (3 feet deep) along the inside of your foundation walls?

If you then fill them with cement, you create piers upon which you can build new foundation walls. Tie 3 3" by 6" boards together and use 2 sets per pier. Then lay a laminate I-beam across the new 3 by 6 posts.

Set this wall just inside your original foundation wall and then lay the house on the new wall (you can break out old wall once new one is in. Just make sure the overhang is not great).

I'm contemplating doing this, but have friends in construction who will assist me. Suggest you get serious help before you try, but this idea may be cheaper than all others and could possibly be done one wall at a time.

BV009400

07:48PM | 11/02/15
this is why i hate smart asses and contractors. Instead of simply answering the guys questions and trying to help him figure out how to do the process most of the replies are centered around telling him he can't do it, shouldn't do it, and so on. How about you teach the guy what you know and help him find answers to the problems without having to spend tens of thousands of dollars?

BV010673

12:00AM | 02/26/16
Where there is a will there is a way!!!!! "Do not tell me it cannot be done"

BV013858

03:13PM | 05/10/17
..."How about you teach the guy what you know and help him find answers to the problems...." See here we have one side of the problem, where weekend warriors and DYI "experts" dont like the price they were given and are trying to cut corners. Contractors like myself who do this everyday for years are supposed to impart that knowledge and experience to someone who really has no idea what they are doing? You are kidding yourself... Piffin and Homebild gave exactly the right advice; they are hardly to blame because you dont like the answer.

thesatanicmechanic

10:38PM | 09/01/17
Member Since: 09/01/17
1 lifetime posts
Old thread, but I had to chime in with my .02

OP, I'm an engineer, mechanical engineer. I hired an engineer to prepare the plan for the repairs on my 1931 craftsman footers.

He cannot develop a plenum for an industrial intake manifold application, I can. I cannot wish myself into thinking that I can construct a footer system to support 30 tons of material on top of it, but he can.

We all work inside our own wheelhouses.

With 30 credit hours under my belt and 10+ years of experience, I'd tackle the job, hell, it would be my job. But it isn't, & it's not worth it.

Get 4 estimates from referred professionals and go with the next to the highest one.

put it on a credit card.

This is stuff one does not youtube.

BV017778

01:07PM | 10/24/18
Install house jacks. Jack them up every 5 it so days for about 2 months. Then get help and reevaluate.

BV017796

10:48AM | 10/26/18
I have the same issue - 1920's historic area home.
WHICH type of contractor should be contacted?
Engineer? Structural? Mechanical? General? which one?

I was told by a retired mason - to hire a 3rd yr apprentice mason for advice. Unsure how to find one. Difficulty getting guidance from anyone.

Been going to home shows for years for info. Most basement contractors want to focus on waterproofing, replace the floor, cracks, French drain - everything other than the heart of the issue - my foundation walls which are extremely dry, slowly dropping pinkish sand, tiny pebbles, and wall debris.

I'm afraid the sides of the home will give in one day. A family member suggested I sell or demolish the home.

Not planning on making this a DIY, but would really love a viable and responsible contractor to refer to or advise...

Thanks on advance

BV020806

05:22PM | 11/08/19
It's funny reading all the "professional contactors" in this thread talk about how awesome they are when every single contractor I've ever worked with has cut so many corners all they were left with were circles. Don't kid yourselves about the other people in your trade, while you might be willing to go above and beyond to do the job right, you are the exception to the rule. All the others are out there trying to make a quick buck and do as little work as possible in the process.

This thread being 4 years old, I like to hope the issue is resolved, but still, foundations are no joke and requires a lot of work and precautions. It is not something that can't be done, but it is bbn something that requires a lot of research and planning before undertaking and you have to be honest with yourself about your abilities and the major risks involved.


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