06:57PM | 01/05/05
Member Since: 01/04/05
2 lifetime posts
I’d like to see more “neighbor-friendly” outdoor lighting sold retail. The outdoor lighting advertised at my two local home improvement stores is rather disturbing. Normally seen in commercial installations, powerful dusk-to-dawn yard lights are now common in my neighborhood; sometimes 2 or 3 on a house. The lights are cheap and of poor design. These are advertised as residential on the box with 125’x125 to 150’x150’ light throw. This is r-eally excessive when most yards are 60’-70’ wide and not much deeper. There’s no light control, it goes everywhere and these lights make it really difficult to host telescope observing for the kids in our neighborhood.

Enough wine and crackers. I’d like to suggest some updates on your tips and shows for using better lighting that reduces glare and spillover light and lights that don’t defeat the purpose of installing them – for safety and security.

Thanks and have a great 2005!



05:31PM | 01/06/05
Member Since: 11/27/04
172 lifetime posts
there are towns that actually have 'light pollution' laws that restrict 'uplighting' effects from all lights.they go as far as getting street lights that actually shine down. . and use the excuse of it being good for the environment. it's like commercial greenhouses that leave their lights on all night and keep the birds up and flying about.

but people nowadays want lots of light in their yards, so the burglars can see what they are stealing.


12:49PM | 01/08/05
Member Since: 01/04/05
2 lifetime posts
Dear theeagle,

Streetlights or roadway lighting systems are being scrutinized more from various sectors of the general public. The roadway lighting system can be a huge investment and ongoing cost for municipalities but obvious economic and social benefits include reduction of night accidents, economic loss, facilitation of traffic flow, and so on. Your comments that people ask for street lighting systems that shine light down to reduce environmental problems are valid and should put lighting designers “on-notice”. For example, Florida Power and Light’s website has environmental policies due to outdoor lighting and sea turtles. Brightly lit areas are less desirable as nesting sites. Also, young hatchlings are often strongly attracted by lighting instead of going out the sea. Now, most communities don’t have problems with sea turtles attracted to busy roads by streetlighting, but the point here is that artificial lighting has sometimes unexpected results.

Light that escapes above horizontal does not benefit the roadway and can contribute to glare and visual clutter to the driver and pedistrian. This wasted light is wasted money for the municipality and ultimately you, the taxpayer. Newer lighting technologies that use a flat lens or “full-cutoff” cobra streetlight are starting to appear in my city. These are replacing the “sag-lens” refractor that is commonplace in N. America. Some of these newer lighting technologies do a better job at preventing wasted light and get more of it on the street surface and objects. Designers can often reduce the lamp wattage because the luminaire is more efficient for the task and still meet illuminance requirements. This can result in significant cost savings. See the EnviroSmart Streetlight Program completed by the City of Calgary.



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