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christian15213

07:58AM | 04/14/05
Member Since: 04/13/05
9 lifetime posts
Here it is, what is better for the top decking part, nails or screws. I have heard screws are way better than nails and that deck mate screws are really good.

Also, if you're knowledgeble about building decks could you give good methods for screwing screws because it can be a great harder deal than nailing.

Thanks for your response...

have fun always

bravey

10:14AM | 04/14/05
Member Since: 06/23/04
161 lifetime posts
Deck screws are the best, hands down. Nails will rise up and create a hazard and they tend to corrode more quickly. Screws are more expensive but hold better and won't corrode if you use the correct type. Deck screws have a smooth shank (no threads) fot the first 1 1/4" of the shank and then an aggresive thread to the tip. They are coated for corrosion resistance or are available in stainless steel. Be sure that the screw finish is compatable with the chemicals now used in treated lumber. The heads are bugle shaped and come with various slots. Phillips head is the most common but the square drive heads are easier to install. Both require a drill/driver to install which is easier than hammering a nail. DON'T use drywall screws. They are cheaper and look like deck screws but are not coated, have the wrong threads, and will rust away in a year.

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JayF

10:59AM | 04/18/05
Member Since: 11/19/02
59 lifetime posts
Screws, screws, screws. Don't waste your time with nails. I work for a large Eastern pressure treater and you'd be amazed at the amount of 'complaints' we get that could easily have been avoided if the customer used screws to start out with.

It's a good idea to pre-drill your holes so that you can avoid splitting the ends of your lumber. A little extra work goes a long way.


christian15213

01:52PM | 04/19/05
Member Since: 04/13/05
9 lifetime posts
Ok, i have been building my deck now for a couple days and have a learned a few things.

Of course screws are better, but would they be easier to drill. Well, I was creating girders with two 2x12's ,pressure treated .40 acq wood from *****, first glueing and then screwing in with phillps II deck screws. Lastly, I drilled them in without even predrilling the holes with a fire storm black and decker 14.4 cordless drill. Easy as pie. I mean whoaaaaa easy and freaking pie. Way easier than nailing for sure and a lot more accurate, secure and longer lasting. I am now confident and happy with my screw decision. Hope this helps others comtiplating the same thing.

have fun always

christian15213

01:53PM | 04/19/05
Member Since: 04/13/05
9 lifetime posts
lol, they didn't let me say lows

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Altereagle

09:37PM | 04/19/05
Member Since: 12/27/02
543 lifetime posts
If you do decks for a living senco (for one) makes a self loading screw-gun with an extention, not only can you stand up & screw but you pop in a screwing strip once in a while and POOF done.

DeWalt has an attachment that will fit onto most of their screw guns.

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MistressEll

05:58AM | 04/20/05
Member Since: 01/30/05
360 lifetime posts
If you buy yourself a cheap beeswax ring (used for toliet installations) and "roll" those screws on it first (lubricating the threads with the bee wax) they will "drive" much easier.

Be sure to use the proper drill bit size when pre-drilling those screw holes.

Another tip: use some tape on your drill bit to mark the depth you want to pre-drill those holes with so not as to over drill (too deep). This will avoid a GAP that will collect moisture under your screws and potentially rot your wood and/or heave/warp your decking (if you're in a winter climate).

RadicalSheep

10:11PM | 05/12/05
Member Since: 04/29/05
17 lifetime posts
If you have the abilty you can by brackets and then you can screw the deak from the bottom. Makes for a way better deck.

And like others have said always buy the right screws. For the treated lumber you have used. Gold screw suck for pressure treated lumber. Do with the greenn coated ones.

Icemancomth

01:22AM | 05/16/05
Member Since: 06/19/04
23 lifetime posts
Screws are the best for keeping the deck seated. While nails do rise at time square driver screws stay put. "Square drive screws offer markedly more resistance to 'Cam-Out'" than Phillips recess screws. Ever have your screwdriver bite come out of the recess? This is why I like especially using square driver screws.

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BV002235

02:51AM | 10/04/13
Here's a killer new screw from Outlaw Fasteners. They're calling it the "world's best screw" and say it doesn't strip or fall off the bit.

If definitely looks well engineered. Here's the link: http://bit.ly/outlawscrews

BV014160

08:27AM | 06/26/17
Help: I am desperate looking for decking nails with detachable heads. Are the available in South Africa? If not how can I have them despatched.

Refer to utube video for the type screws with detachable heads

https://youtu.be/3iAseVZZKlY

Sincerely

Beulah
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BV014381

06:25PM | 07/31/17
Sure screws are better than common casing nails or any other smooth shank nails.
BUT I have removed many a deck screw to find that I have only removed part of the screw. The other part is still buried in the joist. Perhaps when installing, the screw is given a little extra jolt to get it countersunk and the extra torque has snapped the screw. Mercedes-Benz mechanic once told me "a bolt once torqued is half broken" They always use new bolts.
Personally I prefer hot-dipped galvanized ring nails. I'vé never seen a framer screw down plywood sheeting!

BV016772

10:46PM | 07/02/18
I have built over 100 decks using ring neck nails in a air framing nailer that were galvanized. I use the rule 3 in the middle two on the end rule ...crown down with 100% satisfaction. You guys are crazy. These nails absolutley blow away screws and all the splitting they cause as well as 5 times as long to install. Sounds like your bought and paid for.

BV019182

11:40PM | 04/28/19
Yes sir a screw no matter if coated or not is going to break the coating when installed and in ten years the heads are popping off leaving the shank buried. A galvanized ring shank 3" handdrive won't rust or back out. You literally have to use wedges and a sawzall to remove them if you want to save the lumber. Screwshank galvanized 2 & 1/2 inch with a hammer nailset make for the best bannisters. If you are worried about splitting near the end predrill or just flip the nail upside down and tap the point with your hammer flattening the point a little and problem solved. Also the ring shank will pull decking board down tighter than a screw without burying it'sself



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