Ralph Lauren River Rock Hell
Bummer!!! I can't help you, directly, but perhaps I can shed some light on the cause of your problem (perhaps for your benefit and that of others ...)
Ralph Lauren Paints have been 'complained' about notoriously. I hear of VERY few success stories with their paints and methods of application. So I don't recommend this brand when attempting 'exotic applications'. You need to search-out what works well and hear it from someone OTHER than a Ralph Lauren salesperson.
Prep-work goes a long way. SOmetimes, 2 coats of Primer/Sealer are needed, especially for novice painters. (The Pros know all the short-cuts and tricks.) Anyways, buying a HIGH-quality Primer/Sealer (as well as finish paint) goes a long way, especically when you're only talking about a few $$$ when it comes to a washroom. One should never skimp on material because you may get what you pay for.
And lastly, even using the best of paints can prove disasterous. The paint needs to be THOROUGHLY mixed, the walls/room needs to be dry, AND the temperature needs to be just right. Although this may sound silly, one should read the Instructions on the paint can WHILE STILL IN THE STORE to see if it, and what's being painted, will meet their needs.
All that said, you may end up having to 'start over'. If you do, DEFINITELY Prime/Seal a minimum of 2 coats since the paint is Navy-colored. Otherwise, the Navy will 'bleed through' to your topcoat. And, expect a MINIMUM of 2 topcoats for novice painters. (Even I am not that good to get away with 1 coat.)
My best to you (and others) and hope this helps.
Jay J -Moderator
PS: GOd Bless America!
You need to roll gently over the seams so that no seams appear when it is wet. If they do, roll over them lightly and quickly with just a bit of paint on your roller. Also, use big strokes and minimize the number of seams by not re-rolling up and down quickly. Big, long strokes that cover the most area in one swath are the best.
Ultimately, I decided against against the River Rock paint for this reason and others The texture is also too subtle and the little alternative, complimentary paint specks (which I liked) are not visible from far away. I also realized that the look I wanted was accomplished from faux finish techniques that used complimentary colors subtly painted on top of each other (sponge, diluted paste, or otherwise).
I ultimately just decided to use top-quality paint that creates as good a finish and cost the same or less.
[This message has been edited by Lawrence (edited March 14, 2002).]
well a few weeks back i fixed the walls. i went out and bought a glaze, mixed it w/ the river rock paint, 4 parts glaze, 1 part river rock, and sponged it on the walls. after about 4 coats of sponging, the walls look great!!! i got this suede-like / cloud-like effect. we're very happy with it now and we've learned our lesson: never buy ralph lauren's texturized paint!!!
On the positive side... I just finished a room in Ralph Lauren Denim finish, which went off without a hitch. The technique was easy, even for a beginner like me. (I used Flag Blue over Hacienda Blue, which gives a very nice navy denim look.)
Do not follow the instructions. You don't need their rollers. You do need 2 people. Use a roller that is rated for rough surfaces or semi-smooth. Don't be a neat painter like me. Apply it thick, in a random V. First person just paints like normal paint. Second person works behind first using dry roller rolling floor to ceiling also in random V, just smoothing out those roller marks as the texture in the paint runs and gobs up, you just need to keep smoothing that out until it's dry enough to hold itself up, which happens very quickly. This is probably the only paint a humid day helps, because it keeps it workable longer. Do not cut in with a brush, just use a small roller and work in with the big, don't cut in and go back and start with the big roller. Cut in a small area with small roller, then fill in with big roller, and second person with dry roller smooths it out.
I hope this helps. It is gorgeous paint when it works.
I just bought a house that happens to have RL River Rock paint in one of our rooms and the color just doesn't look good. I want to remove it. From reading the above posts, it sounds like I don't have to scrape it off to go back to smooth walls. Is it true that primer and some high quality paint (like Benjamin Moore) will cover the texture?
it can help you a lot. You can save your time ,effort as well as money. .
NOW IT'S DRIPPY & IT DOES NOT RESPOND WELL TO FIXING IT.
If I wait too long to fix, paint came away & left partial coat of sand!
I did use a primer of the same color bec. at first it was not covering at all.
I've read the above responses & am ready to tackle the bathroom some more!
FIRST: YOU SHOULD HAVE USED A PRIMER
SECOND: DID YOU READ HOW TO APPLY IT - DON'T THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE. YOU PAIN IN ON IN NO MORE THAT 2 OR 3 FOOT STRIPS - TOP TO BOTTOM THEN YOU ROLL FROM THE TOP (CEILING) TO THE FLOOR IN ONE ROLL.
I've PAINTED A LOT USING THIS PAINT - ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL
IF YOU FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS. I KNOW MEN DON'T READ DIRECTIONS BECAUSE THEIR SO SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING LOL LOL LOL LOL A WOMAN WHO HAS PAINTED FOR YEARS AND ALWAYS FOLLOW DIRECTONS.
Till today we are getting so many nice compliments on the finish of our walls. It looks like almost white but it has such a niche texture. I'm really desparate to find other supplier, I would love to do our other bedrooms and touch up. It's really worth it.
It is soooo easy. First cut in your walls. But not in a straight line. Swirl the brush up to trim or ceiling and swirl it back off. Now take a 6” brush and dip it into the bucket. Paint the whole wall in overlapping figure eight strokes. Easy peasy. You will thank me later.
I came up with this technique after following their instructions and it turned out crap. Did it my way and was blown away how it came out along with everyone who saw it.