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johndervishian

04:56PM | 07/30/04
Member Since: 07/29/04
1 lifetime posts
I am using the gutter filter "style" product on my home with outstanding results. Take it from someone who knows a thing or two about gutters; this is the best system I have seen yet. But remember, there is no magic bullet for gutters. Regardless of what system you choose to block debris, they all need service. Know this going in and you will be far ahead of the "games".

Hokey hoods are nothing more than black magic. At least with this product, one has a chance to see what is going on up there in the gutter. Best of all, its a lot cheaper than the better advertised products and far more effective.

My two $.02

john dervishian

HartsHaven

11:38AM | 08/07/04
Member Since: 08/06/04
4 lifetime posts
Everyone, the only solution that prevents mosquitoes from breading in your gutters is GUTTERFILTER, and 60% or more of the mosquitoes in your neighborhoods are coming from gutters.... Mosquitoes are territorial and want to hang close to the water source, and you would too if you doubled your weight, you would not be flying 20 blocks looking for a breeding area, it is right above your heads guys…

Todd R. Hartzell

liquidfocus

03:58PM | 02/15/05
Member Since: 02/14/05
2 lifetime posts
I have had experience with the so called Gutter Filter sponge products. They seem to be a decent product for a short term solution, but not for the long term. The first thing that I noticed is how the sun eats away at the product. No matter how much they dip their plastic in UV inhibitors, the sun will win the battle long term. Also, they are total debris traps when it comes to the spring time debris. Leaves can get trapped on it, as well as pine needles. If you don't have good air circulation around your house expect to get up there and clean off the tops. I removed a section that had been up there for a year, and the bottom of the gutter was coated in muck, just like it does when it's open. Who ever pays a lot of money for these types of gutter guards is foolish as they are a do it yourself type system. I'm sure the guys here saying how great they are, are just selling them. Oh by the way, something they don't tell you is how they retain moisture for several days after it stops raining. I'm sure it's a matter of when the built in biocides wash out and mold and mildew starts......

HartsHaven

07:02PM | 02/15/05
Member Since: 08/06/04
4 lifetime posts
My installed product is two years in the Raleigh sun, and there is no sign of any deterioration... My leaves dry up a blow away... You saw a knock off and not the real GutterFilter, and you don't know anything about BioCide either, it does not wash out.

You must be thinking of SPONGE BOB

Todd R. Hartzell

LauraL

03:36PM | 04/05/05
Member Since: 04/04/05
1 lifetime posts
Does anyone know of a good knock off? Something less expensive than GutterFilter.

rschreiber

01:54PM | 04/13/05
Member Since: 04/12/05
2 lifetime posts
I would take a look at The GutterBrush as a good alternative to some of the expensive covers and systems out there. It is easy to install and works on a similar principle to the gutter filter you are considering. www.thegutterbrush.com

HartsHaven

11:53PM | 04/13/05
Member Since: 08/06/04
4 lifetime posts
GutterBrush and GutterFilter are very different... GutterFilter will not collect any debris, where GutterBrush needs to be cleaned regularly... Just imagine pulling the Brush out after a year of collecting debris,,,what a mess

Todd R. Hartzell

stldave1

08:37PM | 04/15/05
Member Since: 04/15/05
2 lifetime posts
Anyone looking for a less expensive alternative to gutter protection might want to look at Leaf Relief from Alcoa, it's a solid perforated aluminum and comes with a 10 year no clog guarantee and it has been independently tested. We have installed the product here in St. Louis Missouri and Cincinnati, Ohio with great results.

rschreiber

06:25AM | 04/20/05
Member Since: 04/12/05
2 lifetime posts
In my experience, the GutterBrush does not collect debris and does not need to be cleaned regularly. Sometimes I can see a few leaves sticking out of the top of the brush, but they are typically gone in a matter of days. After almost 2 years I am still very happy with the performance and price value.

draftbirdlady

07:33AM | 04/28/05
Member Since: 04/27/05
1 lifetime posts
I have tried all the lesser expensive things out there trying to save money. I have had to take them all out. I have wasted more money than I care to admit. The filters are just that "a filter" you do one of two things with a filter, clean it or throw it away. I'm scared to death of heights and don't want to have to climb up there to clean off my gutter protection. I finally got Gutter Helmet installed and have had it for 2 years now. Don't have a bit of problem with it. I did have a limb fall on my house and a section needed to be replaced. They came out and replaced that one section, no fuss.

Glynn468

10:54PM | 08/05/05
Member Since: 08/05/05
1 lifetime posts
In my opinion, he best foam gutter protection product is Leaf Defier. To learn more go to www.houstongutterprotection.com.

liquidfocus

12:44PM | 08/13/05
Member Since: 02/14/05
2 lifetime posts
Todd,

There are only a couple of manufacturers of reticulated foam in the US. The sun does not like plastic. It never has. Especially dark colors, like black, which you just happen to have in your GutterFilter. The sun will eat it up. Also even if the leaves blow away, the smaller debris like oak tassles, pine needles, helicopters, shingle grit, will all work their way into the filter. Sponge products are not maintenance free. Far from it. I know. I can see how they accumulate on the product because its a shelf. The general public does not look upon foam filter inserts as a permanent solution either. They will work for a few years, yes, however the sun will win the war.

HartsHaven

12:19PM | 08/29/05
Member Since: 08/06/04
4 lifetime posts
Liquidfocus

Not all plastic deteriorates rapidly in the sun else the vinyl siding folks would be all out of business. The gutterfilter installed on my home is installed over the hidden hanging brackets, which totally eliminates debris from getting trap, and improves the lateral flow… GutterFilter and GutterFilter Extreme are not sponges they don’t hold water like you are suggesting… You sure don’t know much about these products to be commenting.

Todd R. Hartzell

jerwig

05:35PM | 11/20/05
Member Since: 11/19/05
2 lifetime posts
As someone who has actually used them on his gutters for 2 years, rschreiber's comment on GutterBrush helped in my decision to purchase this product myself. I am not able to climb on my roof to clean the gutters, and it is getting expensive to pay a handyman to do this. The cost of some of the gutter protection product costs are outrageous. GutterBrush costs about $4.00/ft (including shipping) and is easy for a homeowner to install. I'll write a follow up review on this forum a couple of years from now giving my experience.

MrPane777

02:48PM | 12/08/05
Member Since: 12/07/05
1 lifetime posts
I have been watching gutter protection for 20 years, never bought any until...............MASTER SHIELD My god finally a product that you set it and forget it. CAN'T BEAT THIS!!!

Femmegreen

03:05PM | 03/22/06
Member Since: 03/21/06
1 lifetime posts
Hello folks,

After reading through all these posts it strikes me as if there's a bit of competition going on out here, gents! Hopefully my misadventures and solutions can help the people solve the actual problem at hand. I've had blocked gutters for as long as I've owned my home, and seeing as my husband is not of the type to hike it up a ladder to clean the gutters, we've resorted to trying several different gutter covers and gutter miracles that are available out there. The only one that's worked for us has been a foam gutter filter called Gutter Stuff that came with a 25 year guarantee. 6 years and running so I can't complain!

stldave1

06:58PM | 03/23/06
Member Since: 04/15/05
2 lifetime posts
If you are looking for an affordable gutter protection system that is guaranteed, you really need to check out Leaf Relief by Alcoa. That's a name that most people have heard of and can trust. It also won't cost you an arm and a leg to have someone install it either!

tgstaub

09:16AM | 03/24/06
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
With the Elko GuttaGard, there's no debris sitting on top of the gutter like Leaf Relief, and you don't have to worry about the gutter guard clogging and water overflowing down the house.

It's a simple DIY product for $1.25/foot or can be professionally installed for $3-5/ft.

When it comes to gutter protection, watch your wallet! Visit us at www.guttagard.com.

Good luck!

Tim

HenryStaley

02:13PM | 03/26/06
Member Since: 03/25/06
4 lifetime posts
Tim,

I beg to differ with you. I am a home improvement contractor that has installed Leaf Relief for the last three years without a complaint. I have over 15,000' installed on homes; in that three year period; or about 1000 homes. Frankly; I have tore off your product on some homes to replace it with Leaf Relief because the homeowner I encountered was not happy with the Elko system. Leaf Relief can be installed for just a little over what you claim your product can be installed for and it comes with a no clog guarantee from Alcoa which I don't believe you offer (correct me if I'm wrong). Yes; some debri can lay on top of the product but we've never had a problem with a clog...not one. Why would a big corporation like Alcoa put their name behind it (Leaf Relief) if it didn't work? Nor would I continue to install Leaf Relief if it didn't work or if I was getting complaints! Just setting the record straight.

tgstaub

04:15AM | 03/27/06
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
Henry:

Call me and let's chat. We both know these blogs aren't the place for slamming competitors, and I frankly think Leaf Relief is one of the better solutions out there, compared to the ridiculously expensive products.

I've had numerous contractors switch from GuttaGard to Leaf Relief . . . and back again, after Leaf Relief clogged and ran over.

The 10 year no clog warranty, as you well know, is for the INTERIOR of the gutter only. Of course it won't clog if debris can't get through, but neither can water when the panels clog . . . and they DO clog.

Tim

HenryStaley

04:54PM | 03/30/06
Member Since: 03/25/06
4 lifetime posts
Tim,

I had no intention of slamming any competitors; but when I read your comment "With the Elko GuttaGard, there's no debris sitting on top of the gutter like Leaf Relief, and you don't have to worry about the gutter guard clogging and water overflowing down the house" I thought that was kinda slamming the competition! And you posted that comment right after someone posted a comment about Leaf Relief. So retaliation can only be imminent sometimes in self defense.

I don't have a problem with you touting your own product, but I think anyone that installs another product would appreciate if you didn't degrade other products.

I also appreciate your offer, but my motto is "If it's not broke, don't fix it". And so far I am 110% satisfied with the Alcoa Leaf Relief system and so are my customers (3 years and counting). If anything changes I will be the first to let you know.

Good luck!

tgstaub

05:49AM | 03/31/06
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
As I've said, of the various collection systems out there, Leaf Relief is the best and I recommend it frequently.

However, the FACTS are:

1) debris decomposes and does not blow off the panel as claimed;

2) When it clogs, and it does clog, it will overflow over the lip of the gutter;

3) And the 10 year no-clog warranty is for the INTERIOR of the gutter only, and does not warrant that the gutter protection product won't clog.

I believe in being completely frank with customers. Provided they know what they're buying, I believe Leaf Relief is a fine product offered by an outstanding company . . . both in the U.S. by Alcoa and in Canada by the original inventor, Alu-Rex (where it's called Gutter Clean).

Thanks much for the exchange. Please do feel free to call me.

Tim

HenryStaley

08:01PM | 03/31/06
Member Since: 03/25/06
4 lifetime posts
Tim,

I thought your comments earlier about not debating this in public was a good idea; and I was going to drop this conversation. However; your relentless, bogus comments about Leaf Relief deserve some attention. It appears as though you are trying to defame the Alcoa Leaf Relief product.

Pardon me Tim but I just want to apologize to any folks who are reading this; looking for gutter protection products; I normally do not engage in debates on here; but Alcoa's Leaf Relief is what I install; and I think it's worth setting the record straight; so folks please pardon our dust. I am not affiliated with Alcoa in any way, other than I just install their products on a local level; so I really don't have anything to gain here (or an axe to grind) other than defending a great company and product.

Ok, Tim, back to you. Alright, you say you have the following "FACTS". Facts are usually backed up with evidence. So please provide evidence of your listed facts here so I and everyone else can see them, if you can. Make me and everyone else here a believer of your claims and I will drop this debate. Here are your claims or so called facts about Leaf Relief:

1) debris decomposes and does not blow off the panel as claimed;

Please provide proof over and above Alcoa's disclaimer which is no secret which states:

"In most cases, normal debris is lifted away with only a gentle breeze. In sheltered roof areas or overhangs on shallow pitched roofs, debris may collect where air cannot lift away debris. We recommend occasionally cleaning these areas to keep Leaf Relief working properly".

And I will emphasize that this disclaimer has very rarely applied (if at all) in my own personal dealings with over 1000 customers and zero complaints with the BBB.

2) When it clogs, and it does clog, it will overflow over the lip of the gutter;

Please provide proof that Leaf Relief has clogged or that a gutter has clogged (over and above the disclaimer).

3) And the 10 year no-clog warranty is for the INTERIOR of the gutter only, and does not warrant that the gutter protection product won't clog.

Please provide proof that Leaf Relief has clogged over and above the mentioned disclaimer.

Yes Alcoa does offer a 10 year (interior) no clog warranty. Looking at your web site, I see no mention of an interior or exterior no clog warranty. The only warranty I see is for defects in material or workmanship. So, if I was a consumer which one would I choose if both products were about the same price (it's a no brainer)?

While we are on the subject of facts, I think I'll list a few facts, for folks, backed with evidence. Your product is a reverse curve product like many of the other products out there.

You claim your reverse product will handle 6" of rain water per hour. Alcoa's Leaf Relief (Gutter Clean Systems) system has been tested and handled 32.9 inches of rain water per hour (based on a 20' run). Source - Intertek Testing Services, NA LTD. - An independent accredited labratory.

Reverse curve products have been known to produce abnormal amounts of icecicles in cold climates, creating slippery spots on driveways and sidewalks. Check out the Garden web and folks that are commenting on their results with reverse curve products:

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/repair/msg0907050224523.html?15

Click here and compare reverse curve systems with the Alcoa Leaf Relief system:

http://www.freefilehosting.org/public/1623/10%20reasons%20to%20choose%20Leaf%20Relief.pdf

Folks, if you ever get the opportunity to see an in home presentation of these reverse curve products on a gutter, take a piece of paper and rip it up into little pieces. Take the reverse curve sample under your sink and run water on top of the product and drop the small pieces of paper on the sample. I won't tell you where the paper goes, you can post it on here and tell me. Just imagine if the paper were a leaf or some other debris.

And finally Tim, if you want to open this can of worms any further, just keep posting and I'll keep responding.

Have a great weekend, and I'm sure I'll be hearing from you soon.

H.S.


tgstaub

06:05AM | 04/03/06
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
H.S.

Actually, according to the original data from Alu-Rex, the maker of Gutter Clean and the licensor of the product to Alcoa, it will handle 305" per hour.

Much like a clean screen, it actually has a siphoning effect which pulls the water down into the gutter.

"Reverse curve" products can rarely handle more than 8" per hour. Of course, the average rainfall in the U.S. is only 30-40" per year . . . and only Louisiana gets more than 6" of rain . . . per month.

Leaf Relief is an excellent product when it is clean and free of debris. Alcoa is a superb company with great marketing and distribution, and they clearly have VERY loyal employees.

Thanks, H.S.

Tim

HenryStaley

03:55PM | 04/03/06
Member Since: 03/25/06
4 lifetime posts
Hello Tim,

The data that you mention is on the Alu-Rex.com web site. And you are right that is what is reported. There are conflicting reports about the data, when it comes to water flow. Alu-Rex reports 301" and Alcoa reports 32.9" see their brochure:

http://www.freefilehosting.org/public/1415/leaf%20relief%20brochure.pdf

I actually called the Alcoa headquarters to clear up this conflict and I was told to use the 32.9", so I would rather report lower rather than higher. I'm not sure why this conflict exists but I hope they clear it up. Either way it handles alot of water as does your product.

I don't know if you were implying that I am an Alcoa employee, but I'm not, just a loyal contractor that believes in what I install.

Look Tim, I am not trying to create any enemies, I just get irked when I see a product that I install get picked on. Plus the person that posted the original comment about Leaf Relief is a friend of mine too. No hard feelings!

Good luck with your product launch in May.

H.S.

newyorkone

12:08PM | 07/17/06
Member Since: 07/16/06
1 lifetime posts
H.S.

I was wondering if I could contact you. I am in the New York area and was wondering if you could recommend a local installer. I have been searching forever for a gutter guard system and I am very interested in the Alcoa one and would like to talk to you more about it. Makes me feel better about it before I plunk down all that money. Thanks in advance.

S.W.

jon6336

07:56AM | 07/21/06
Member Since: 07/20/06
1 lifetime posts
I have been looking for gutter protection for a long time, and I found it about two years ago. It's a product called "Gutter-Care" The website is: www.gutter-care.com. I have been very very happy with the product. It's another open pore foam product but it goes over the hanger on the gutter. I got it installed for about 10 bucks a foot, with professional installation and cleaning and a 25 year no clog guarantee.

GutterFilterDistributor

09:59PM | 09/27/06
Member Since: 09/27/06
1 lifetime posts
The Gutter Brush still allows debris to settle in the gutters and does not do a good job. It doesn't EVEN compare to the Gutter Filter. Yes, I sell Gutter Filters. But only because I KNOW they work and are the best. I wouldn't sell crap to my customers. The Gutter Filter IS truely the best system on the market. Currently, we offer ours for $8.00/linear ft. Installed. We don't charge labor, we guarentee it for 20 years. It's designed to last for 30 years. We give our customers a free gutter cleaning along with the purchase and installation of the product. We even come out to the customer's home and blow off the tops....IF they need it. We are Window Cleaners, so, since they are our customers, we offer this to them for free. We take care of our customers. A customer is like a good knife. You take care of your knife, your knife will take care of you. If they ever have problems with the Gutter Filter system, which they won't, but if they do, we take care of it at no cost to our customer. :) http://www.jrcleaningsvc.com

roofrepairamerica

01:17AM | 07/12/07
Member Since: 07/11/07
2 lifetime posts
GUTTERSHELL IS THE BEST AND IT COST LESS TO INSTALL THAN THE FOAM SEE IT IN ACTION http://www.roofrepairamerica.com
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TJames

06:03AM | 10/25/07
Member Since: 10/21/07
3 lifetime posts
Ive seen this product and all it is, is a more expensive knock off of the Gutterpiller gutter protection product. You can view this companies products (and they have a new gutter protection product that is setting the standard in gutter protection today) on their web site www.gutterpiller.com

Yes we sell Gutterpiller products as well as others and we find their sales people very helpful and continually innovate new and intereting product (Black Magic Filters) for the DIY industry.

Take a look, you will be happy you did.

James

Always Busy but never too Busy!
310 gutter brush

videocover

10:25AM | 07/04/08
Member Since: 07/03/08
1 lifetime posts
I had Gutter Filter installed on 10/04 and have never been satisfied. At least four times a year I have had to climb on the roof to clean out the gutters. The wind does not pick up the debris and blow it away. The valleys are consistently clogged with matter causing the gutters to overflow with any amount of rain.

I installed this product so I would not have to climb on my roof. The company is not interested in sending anyone to see about my problem, but insists I cut a one foot section out of the installation ( thus ruining it) and send it to them for "evaluation". When I bought the product I was told if at any time I was unhappy I should call my contractor and he would come out to clean the gutters. I have called but he is out of business. The parent company is uninterested in making a home inspection with another contractor.

Bottom line...the product really does not work as advertised

digieman

05:32AM | 07/30/08
Member Since: 07/29/08
1 lifetime posts
I can't recumend this product. I had id installe last year when I had new gutter installed. I have maple and spruce trees next to my house, The spruce trees drop thier needles whic clog the filter and the maple tree drops seeds which also clog the filters. so when the water runns off of the roof it runs over the top of the gutter filter.

tgstaub

05:47AM | 07/30/08
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
Been awhile since I blogged, but here goes...

Everything clogs. It doesn't matter what a salesman tells you, everything clogs. It doesn't matter what their fancy warranties say, everything clogs. Either the gutter clogs, or the gutter protection clogs, but in a matter of time, everything clogs. The only questions are . . . how long will it take? . . . and . . . how easy will it be to clean when it does clog?

Take a look at Gutter Genius DIY (www.guttergeniusdiy.com) also marketed as Elko GuttaGard (www.guttagard.com). It's easy to install, and easy to uninstall the one guard over the downspouts (that's where the debris washes to) when it needs cleaning every 5 or 10 years.

It clogs too, and you need to make sure the clips are installed properly (it's easy to do), but it's solid metal, easy to install, easy to remove to do infrequent maintenance, and lasts for many many years. 25 million feet in 25 years to nearly 250,000 homeowners. It works.

I liked it so much, I bought the company!

Tim Staub

Owner/CEO
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tgstaub

06:31AM | 07/30/08
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
Hi Henry,

Just wanted your professional feedback on the following:

I had a homeowner call me from, ironically, Alcoa, Tennesee with a problem with his Leaf Relief. It was a high two story home with a steep drop off in the back, making it over 3 stories on about 2/3 of the house.

When he built the house in 2006, the gutter contractor convinced him to put on Leaf Relief. It clogged over and over again, and the homeowner (being 68 years old) couldn't clean the debris off the top of the gutters. The contractor came back multiple times to help, but finally told the homeowner it couldn't be fixed.

He called PlyGem, the new owner of Alcoa's Exterior business, and was told of the warranty . . . which protects the inside of the gutter only. So he called the contractor back again to replace the product with GuttaGard.

Here's the kicker. One of the points Alcoa pitched was that with Leaf Relief you can eliminate many of the gutter spikes or hangers, because the product reinforces the gutter (true). But...the gutter contractor couldn't remove the product without removing the entire gutter system!

In frustration, he hired a new gutter installer, who removed the 18 month old gutter, reinstalled it with 3x4 downspouts, and installed our new Gutter Genius (www.guttergenius.com) product (also sold as GuttaPro at www.elkoproducts.com) . . . at a substantial cost.

He knows Gutter Genius will clog at some point, but his new gutter contractor will come back and get it working, for an honest but modest fee.

I still like Leaf Relief and recommend it frequently, but I think a bit less hype and a lot more honesty is the right medicine.
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Houserepairpro

08:45AM | 08/05/08
Member Since: 04/21/08
1 lifetime posts
What happens to the gutter when GuttaGuard freezes? I have heard some pretty serious horror stories about bending gutters, excess weight from ice causing the gutters to tear away from the house as well as other unfortunate outcomes of ice forming as a result of these appliance type systems. I am in the market for a significant amount of some sort of gutter protection system but will probably stay away from any sort of system that requires installation and modification to my gutters. I recently came across a product called gutterbrush (www.gutterbrush.com) and it looks like GutterBrush will not cause the sort of freezing problem I am looking to avoid will also keeping me from having to clean my gutters on an annual basis. Do you have any experience with GutterBrush or other insert types of gutter protection?
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tgstaub

09:51AM | 08/05/08
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
GuttaGard and GuttaPro both work great in cold climates with ice and snow. The issue with ice is largely with keeping it out of the gutters so it doesn't pull the gutter away from the house; and avoiding ice damming. GuttaGard keeps the ice out of the gutter, and while it doesn't eliminate ice damming, it doesn't create it or make it worse either.

Tim Staub

Elko GuttaGard

ssttoorrmm

08:01PM | 08/08/08
Member Since: 08/07/08
1 lifetime posts
Come on people,can't you see you are listening to all the people selling there own products ......Come on.

championdiversifiedllc

05:04PM | 09/04/08
Member Since: 09/03/08
1 lifetime posts
My mother in law had new gutters installed and was bamboozled into buying the gutter filter type device. The name was gutter stuff, but it is identical to the gutter filter.

IT DOES NOT WORK!

The product is junk and has been removed. The manufacturer and installer will not stand behind the product. The filters have been removed and my mother in law has now moved on to the State's board of consumer affairs. I logged on to learn more about the gutter brush, but had to chime in so other home owners aren't subjected to this product, and the company's poor service. I don't know if the Gutter Filter and the Gutter Stuff are made by the same mfg, but visit the websites and draw your own conclusions. They appear to be identical.

This caused severe ice build up, and subsequent water damage.

Best of luck to anyone researching these products, and I would welcome any feedback regarding the gutter brush.

gm1111

06:00PM | 09/17/08
Member Since: 10/22/07
3 lifetime posts
some of you are making a big mistake about leaf filter, it is not a foam at all, i looked at the web site to find it somewhat amazing, stainless steel micro filter that will block all the junk. why are puting it down when you are talking about gutter foam or gutter stuff or the same crap with another name to it. foam will be foam, covers will be covers and leaf filter is its own. see for yourself.

greenkoi

09:44AM | 09/29/08
Member Since: 09/28/08
1 lifetime posts
I had Jeff Corcorran of RainTube of Houston install the RainTube product in my gutters and am very happy with the results. The house is surrounded by pines, oaks and pecan.

Since we just lived through Hurricane Ike, there were a ton of branches, leaves and such everywhere, but the RainTube performed wonderfully.

Water flowed without any hint of clogging, while the neighbors across the street lost their gutters - clogged with debris, the weight of wet muck combined with the winds ripped their gutters and facia off, exposing the rafters. Ouch.

I'd highly recommend RainTube to anyone considering purchasing gutter protection. I shopped around Houston and found this to be the most cost effective product on the market.

http://www.raintubeofhouston.com

heatherrros

07:25AM | 01/13/09
Member Since: 01/08/09
2 lifetime posts
I actually installed a gutter guard system myself. It is a stainless steel mesh guard called Gutterglove Gutterguard. I was shocked with how easy it was to install. It lets nothing through it but water, so we never have to clean it. I love having it on my home because now I know there will be no damage to it from clogged overflowing guttters and my husband and i never have to take the time to clean it. I found it at www.gutterglove.com. Well worth the investment!

NCKevin99

04:09AM | 03/02/09
Member Since: 03/01/09
2 lifetime posts
When i purchased my house, one of the selling points was the gutter protection system that was installed, it was combination of the brush thing and then the plastic covers over that, so it seemed like a good idea, two gutter products that both claim that they never clog, however in the spring i soon found out that it was not only a failure but a premiere nesting cite for mesquites and wasps. after calling several pushy salesmen i did a bit of my own research.... I found a comprehensive review of all the products by http://ncreview.org, and there pick is gutter glove, I had the thing put in and it has been working flawlessly, the cost was a bit higher that the other products but was very reasonable however having the product actually work is better than paying a bit less and having the thing replaced anyway. the link to the review is: http://gutter-comparison-protection-covers-review.ncreview.org/ -Kevin

brucemay

07:44AM | 03/10/09
Member Since: 03/09/09
2 lifetime posts
Can you give an estimated cost for the raintube including installation. Price per linear foot?

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Bruce A May

2106 Glenbrook Meadows Dr.

Garland, Texas 75040-4140

Home Phone: 972-495-7835

Cell Phone: 214-957-4425

Home Fax: 972-496-3355

Toll Free Fax to E-Mail: 1-866-571-9477

E-Mail: bruce.may@verizon.net

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ruddell4

04:56PM | 04/08/09
Member Since: 04/07/09
2 lifetime posts
I looked on thier web site and they don't indicate that they sell direct so how did you get it?

ruddell4

05:00PM | 04/08/09
Member Since: 04/07/09
2 lifetime posts
What is the cost?

brucemay

09:32AM | 05/28/09
Member Since: 03/09/09
2 lifetime posts
Check out RainTube at http://www.raintube.com. I had them installed all around my house and they are GREAT! It fits into your current gutters and keeps the leaves and junk out of your gutters while letting the rain pass through and down and out your downspouts. The site has were you can locate your nearby installer. The installer in the Dallas Texas area is "Call Claudette" which did an excellent job.

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Bruce A May

2106 Glenbrook Meadows Dr.

Garland, Texas 75040-4140

Home Phone: 972-495-7835

Cell Phone: 214-957-4425

Home Fax: 972-496-3355

Toll Free Fax to E-Mail: 1-866-571-9477

E-Mail: bruce.may@verizon.net

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dominicr1

01:27PM | 10/02/09
Member Since: 10/01/09
12 lifetime posts
I just installed Leaf Relief about a week ago in the early stages of fall. After about 10 days and 3 storms, I have no overflows and leaves have blown off themselves. So far, so good.
394 leaf relief just ins

dominicr1

01:30PM | 10/02/09
Member Since: 10/01/09
12 lifetime posts
By the way, I found this thread extremely helpful in my extensive research into what I feel will solve my gutter problems.

tgstaub

03:22PM | 10/03/09
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
Looks like the wind blew every single leaf off the lawn too!

dominicr1

06:07PM | 10/03/09
Member Since: 10/01/09
12 lifetime posts
that first pic was just after install. I have visibility of my problem areas from the slope in my yard. So far, just a few leaves here and there. I'd have to get on the roof again to take up close pics. I can see just a few acorn bits from the side where my oak tree is. No interference with water flow though.

gm1111

06:56PM | 10/14/09
Member Since: 10/22/07
3 lifetime posts
Wow this post is still running, i had posted in the past but since them had leaf filter installed on my gutters with no problems at all, i think that all systems are good but some are better then others. i needed something that blocked pine and none of the covers were going to do it for me. i do not work for them or care to. i think that some of the guys that rave on other products work for this so called gutter company. please don't mistake home owners as stupid. i have looked into gutter protection for 2 years before buying the leaf filter. many hrs spent on line.

tgstaub

07:25PM | 10/14/09
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
You don't have to wonder about me... I definitely work for one of those so called gutter companies. In fact, I own one called Elko Products (www. elkoproducts.com) and it's my mission to tell the truth about this silly market.

Everything clogs. Everything fails. There is no fool-proof system. Don't spend a penny more than necessary, and install something that is easy to maintain, and easy to clean when it does clog.

Gutters run about $2.50 to $4.00 per foot. How much should it cost to cover them?

dominicr1

06:54AM | 10/15/09
Member Since: 10/01/09
12 lifetime posts
I too researched for about a year. I had the PVC guards (purchased at Lowes)with the roll & slits that let in one wasp nest that I know of and oak strings, and maple helicopters. I went with Leaf Relief to avoid these issues. Nearly 1 month and many storms & leaves later, still good. I'll report back in the spring and see how performance is with the oak & maple "stuff"

tgstaub

08:27AM | 10/15/09
Member Since: 08/20/04
13 lifetime posts
Dominic;

Out of curiosity, what was your installed price per foot for Leaf Relief? It wholesales for around $2.60 per foot, so with labor, I'm curious as to what the price was.

Thanks.

Tim

dominicr1

05:56AM | 11/24/09
Member Since: 10/01/09
12 lifetime posts
I apologize for not responding sooner. I did not see your post.

I have my sources, I purchased the product from a supply house (less than $2.60/ft) and installed myself. I used the remodel version of the product.

It is an easy install and I didn't want anything under the shingle or to have to alter the gutters. I really like the plastic flange at the back that sits against the fascia. BTW, I still happy with the performance too.

jkiene

05:35AM | 04/10/10
Member Since: 04/09/10
2 lifetime posts
Anwser...ready.....A gas powered Blower will clean out your gutters quickly. If you don't have a gas powered blower, your missing out on a handy tool to have around the house

dominicr1

06:16AM | 04/10/10
Member Since: 10/01/09
12 lifetime posts
That's fine and dandy but I still had to get on the roof with my blower. I haven't had to be back on the roof since my Leaf Relief install. And that's the way I like it.

aluminumguy

06:51AM | 08/08/10
Member Since: 08/07/10
2 lifetime posts
I'm a contractor, I have been working with aluminum products and gutters for 13yrs. I tend to disagree with some of what has been stated here as this information is a little older therefor dated. I install a Microfiber mesh gutter filtration system that is supported by the inventor of the technology. I have personally installed similar products from other companies and chose to sell and install this one because of it's versatility and functionality, and it's unmatched money back guarantee lifetime warranty. If you'd like to see it visit http://mastershield.com/ . Thanks Dennis

truthout

09:59AM | 10/19/10
Member Since: 10/18/10
2 lifetime posts
Aluminum Guy, the thirteen years experience has nothing to do with Mastershield as the product has not been around for 13 years. How long have you actually had the Mastershield? As a former dealer of Mastershield ( and that is a pretty long list) I can tell you that you know not of which you speak. Here is the whole scam behind Mastershield: Their money back warranty is impossible to ever have a claim on because it says absolutely not one thing about their filter itself clogging. They claim that they have a self cleaning filter, but when the filter itself clogs, no warranty. Their warranty is against the interior of the gutter clogging, but is is impossible. What good does that do though when no water is making it into the unclogged gutter because the Mastershield is clog. Mastershield has absolutely no warranty whatsoever against the Mastershield itself clogging. Don't take my word for it, read their warranty. Mastershield rips apart all the companies with the free cleaning warranty yet when their mastershield clogs they tell you to scrub it with a brush; nice warranty for $30.00/ft! I have seen Mastershield clog from roof oil, shingle grit, leaves, pine needles, moss, mold, lichen, snow, ice and much more but because the gutter is not clogged, you are out of luck. Some attorney general somewhere should force Mastershield to make claims that are not so tremendously misleading.

Bob Vila, do not be bullied again by Mastershield into pulling down the truth about their product. When they contact you, and you know they will just like last time someone told the truth on your fine website, don't be bullied, I would be happy to provide pictures of every one of the aforementioned conditions. It is time that people knew the truth about this overpriced scam.

By the way, I can also tell you as a former Mastershield dealer that Tim Carter is paid for his endorsement. Absolute fact. The one place on the internet that speaks highly of Mastershield gets paid for every lead he brings into Mastershield. You people who bought based on his word and are now experiencing problems should bombard askthebuilder.com and ask Tim how much he took to sell you down the river. The time has come for the Mastershield dealers and owners to stop visiting every homeowner site that caters to the honest homeowners, like this one, and posing as homeowners themselves so they can distort the truth. They should spend that time rewriting their warranty so that it actually covers their own product and not the gutter underneath it.

BV003334

07:35PM | 02/22/14
I switched to Flo Free from DCI Products several years back. Easy to install and Extremely versatile. For the first time NO COMPLAINTS!.....ever! Will not hold ice or snow. Keeps even the smallest particles out and will take all the water mother nature can dole out....Lifetime warranty and about $2.75 per foot. very easy to install with scissors and a knife ... even for a novice and works with every pitch of roof that sometimes is impossible for cap installation
Index

BV003334

07:44PM | 02/22/14
p.s. to the guy who has the gas blower. The biggest problem with gutters isn't the gutter. Leaves and debris are constantly funneled down your downspouts. You may clean your gutters two, three or even more times per year but all the stuff you missed made it's way down your downspouts. At the bottom where it bends to the lateral pipes it lays there and rots. Gets hard and causes a stoppage of flow. Every time I have been called ( 27 years worth of time ) it has always been plugged pipes below ground at the elbows and not the gutters.

BV004301

05:42PM | 05/13/14
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