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12:30PM | 11/16/05
Member Since: 11/15/05
1 lifetime posts
Ok..I have a small house in Central Indiana, brick on the front, alum siding on back, and about 1200 square feet max. It was built in 1986 and has wood, double hung windows in the house now. It also has a storm unit on the outside. Windows are shot and wont lift or stay up right, and storm units are falling apart. 7 windows total...Living room has a double(2 side by side..66x63 total), 3 bedrooms with 1 each (aprox 32x62), a kitchen (29x39), and dining room(32x63)I am remodeling and am looking to purchase all new windows in the next few days. I am tore between a few models.

I priced Thermastar Series 20 by Pella at Lowes. About 1250.00 for all the windows plus 770 to install. Told me they were 1/2 glass and didnt know U values. Nice huh?

Then, i priced Jen Weld at Menards.. about the same price, didnt like the window look.

Then, American Craftsman 8500 series at home Depot with Low E glass,intercept spacer, full screens,7/8" glass etc. they have a U value with no grills of .35..with grills .35 ...and SGHC of .31 without grills and .27 with grills. Windows were 1125.00 but I have to find an installer.

Lastly, a local window place in business for 25 years and reputable, quoted me Simonton Prism Bronze series.. All white, double hung, low E and Argon,3/4 glass,intercept spacer, half screens, half or full grids if I want them. He was 350.00 per window (2450.00 total)installed including any trim work etc. Glass replacemt free through them, free screen replacements, etc. The specs on them with grids are a U value of .37 total (.26 center of glass), R value of 2.7 total(3.85 center of glass)and a SGHC of .26 total(.39 center of glass). No grids drops it to U of .33 total(.26 COG), R 3.03 total(3.85 COG) and a SGHC of .29 (.39 COG).

What my best best? The 8500's from Home Depot seem the best price if I can find an installer in my area, but warranty issues may be a little harder down the road. The Simonton way seems good in the thermal vlaues but pricier through the local store....but easy to deal with warranty or glass replacemt if needed.

Any experience with these windows? Is the difference between grids and no grids on the thermal values that big of a deal?

thanks alot. I am so worried on this decision!


01:25PM | 11/20/05
Member Since: 11/06/02
1278 lifetime posts
You've done your homework well.

In my mind, there is no question.

most big box storesare almost gauranteed to mess up an order like this and to fail to eeal appropriately with warranty issues.

The local shop has the reputation and will back their work up

In windows and doors, 40% of th evalue is the service before, during and after the sale. I don't know that brand they sell, but my money would go to the local shop with the service

Excellence is its own reward!

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